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I've found a glass manufacturer that can make the glass tensioner discs. The quote is for clear discs. 5 discs @ $65 each (to cover cost to make mold of disc)
10 discs @ $55 each and as you order more docs for one job, the price goes down.
Translucent discs (75% clarity) would be less expensive. I don't have a quote for translucent discs.
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The original disks aren't 100% clear.  Or, at least, because some of the surfaces are ground, rather than polished, they give that impression.  So it might be worth finding out what 75% clarity would really look like.
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It seems like the 75% clarity would be closer to what the original W&G discs clarity. I'll request a quote on the 75% clarity.
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Maybe they can send you pictures of the difference, as well.
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Good idea. Will ask for pics and quote for 75% translucent.
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Sounds very good.  Looking forward to this moving forward!
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This has been in the planning stages a long time. I've been through a house move, taking care of my 95 year old grandma, and many other changes. Hopefully the 75% translucent will be a little less.
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even as is, I would be up for $110 for a pair of new disks.
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I had some misunderstanding on the quote.
There is a fee of $225 to make the rubber mold. 10 translucent discs @ $35 = $350

Total job cost for 10 trans. discs is $575
This comes out roughly to $58 a disc

I've emailed the company to make sure this is correct quote. When I get response back, will post here.
I apologise for misinformation.
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ok, so it is $116 for a pair.  Still ok with me.
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It would be helpful to have at least 5 people or more to order. More discs ordered, lower the cost. Are there other forums to let people know that the discs can be replaced? I was reading past threads of people trying to figure out how to DIY a disc. Let them know this may be an option?
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There's the Willcox & Gibbs group on groups.io (formerly the Yahoo group), and there's the Facebook Willcox & Gibbs group as well.  Someone there recently made a pair of disks out of lucite -- don't know if they'd want to upgrade or not.

(As interested as I am in this endeavor, I lucked into a glass tension machine that still has its disks.)

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Unfortunately, so many of the machines have both discs, but the discs are chipped. Blessed indeed if you find discs that have no damage.
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I never said my disks weren't chipped.  :-)    But they're both there, and the chips (I think maybe on one only) don't affect function.

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I am the one who has the machine with the Lucite disks.  My husband made them.  They are not original but they are functional and look just as good.  And, they are a fraction of the cost that you are talking about.  Just buy 3/4 inch diameter Lucite rod off of Ebay. You can make them with a drill and a file.  The machine sews great with them.
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Hello
Could you download pics of the discs. Also, could you describe in more detail how you made them.
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they were made on a metal lathe , but can be made with a drill and file , buy 3/4 lucite rod off of ebay is where we purchased ours.
drill the right size hole first . same size as the tensioner bolt .then measure the width of glass tensioner 1/4 inch on the lucite and cut it off.(you will need a hacksaw)  you now have a 1/4 x 3/4 disc with a hole in the middle if it is off a little or a little to big you can bring it back to shape while filing in the bevels.
all you need to do now is put the bevels on the disc. , now since you probably do not have a lathe you will need to get a small bolt and nut and run it through the hole and tighten it down but not so hard you break the lucite just enough so it wont spin. now put the bolt in the drill . you will most likely have to have some one hold the drill or clamp it down  while you take a file and cut the bevels on the disc. that's it.  if you run the drill to fast it will melt the lucite . also buy the lucite rod in 12inch length that way if you mess up you have a lot more to get it right .

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Thank you for the explanation.
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here are the pics of the tensioners 

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Very nice!  Well done.  Those look a lot like the originals in that photo.
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I'll bet that cutting the initial 1/4" would be more accurate if you can at least start it with the hacksaw, with the drilled section of lucite spinning on the drill.  That will ensure the disk ends up with uniform thickness.
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