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Just 2 weeks ago i was very very fortunate to be able to buy a white treadly sewing machine from a family who's grandmother had owned this machine for most part of her life (it was not known if she bought it new). This makes is interesting as coming from the netherlands would have made transport very expensive back in 1900 knowing that there where plenty of competitors nearby and most likely much cheaper.
I'm thrilled to own this beauty and very proud.

I have a what i think is a turn of the century white treadle machine and at first hand it looked good, but when looking at the woodwork there are plenty of cracks from drying i found that the woodwork finish was well i can't even describe it it looked like 100 + years of aquiring dirt, grease, dust etc etc
I removed the shellac and now i can see the beautifull red oak coming to light again, but on the top lid there is a huge decal and there the problem arises.
There is no way i can remove the dirty layer without damaging the decal.
So is there someone making these or is there a way to reproduce these
Also what model is it as the pat. plate says i believe april 1900 if i remember it correctly.
Also what model is my machine can anyone help
And what instruction manual (type) should i look for as i really like having one
Any help is much appreciated.

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Most (? at least, many) treadle machines have a serial number on the machine head itself. That would be the way to find out how old yours is, and would help narrow down a model. A picture of the machine here or searching someplace like ISMACS' gallery is probably going to be even more useful to find the model. Without the model known finding instructions will be tough.
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Hi Colleen,

Thanks for the reply.
I include some pix from my pride and joy.
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I canĀ“t see if the first # is a 6 or ? i would say a 9 upside down is a 6, but this one looks really odd so if anyone can fill me in than please do

Also i would like to know the model as i would like to own a instruction manuel to include with the machine.

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And a pix from the problem area the top lid with the decal
Is there anybody out there that makes these decals
For singer it is no problem, but white despite being a very large manufacturer it's only the machine decals i have seen for sale
[IMG-4080][IMG-4084][IMG-4082]

Any additional info is welcomed

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I think thats a 6
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I am a big fan of old White sewing machines and yours is a real beauty!

As for the decal on the top I would wrap my finger with a piece of cotton rag, dip it in alcohol and a couple of drops of linseed oil. Carefully apply a tiny area of the decal and see if that will dissolve the shellac with out harming the decal.

Be very careful and go very, very slowly.

I must warn you that this is a delicate and tricky proposition and may not work. That is why you must try it on a very tiny portion of the decal. Be very careful.

I don't want to give the impression that this will work, it is just a suggestion.
Good luck!
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...And what instruction manual (type) should i look for as i really like having one
Any help is much appreciated.



There are several manuals that Macybaby posted and on page 2 of manuals catagory. https://www.victoriansweatshop.com/?forum=626056&trail=100

I think any of these would work for your machine as they are very similar.
https://www.victoriansweatshop.com/post/white-family-rotary-8051324
https://www.victoriansweatshop.com/post/white-sewing-machine-book-12-8079534
https://www.victoriansweatshop.com/post/white-rotary-five-stitch-attachment-8051325

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Ragmanx,

i tried your tip today, but despite trying several diffirent attempts i quit as it turned out to be a all or nothing experience.
Iow. ones the shellac starts to break or become slimey than also in a jiffy the colour of the decal is gone ....
so instead i went for the middle way and cleared all the dark colour .? in a oval shape around the decal and keep things as they are.
It's not perfect, but now i still have the unique decal and that was important to me.
As for the rest it's a nightmare to clean all this dark colour ? with denatured alcohol either 70 or 96 % w/wo stainless steelwool (ss leaves no black particles on oak regulare steellwool does) and in all the grooves is very difficult to get it out.
Even today tried a paint remover (organic no chemicals) from a wood restoration shop and it does nearly the same as the denatured alcohol.
Allthough the beautifull red oak is coming to light which i absolutely love it's gonna be a looong time to get it all right.
I keep  posting on my progress

Janey,
Thanks for the links i think the model 12 is what i have

Thanks all for the help it's more than appreciated.
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I have found this very interesting as in May I bought the same such machine in treadle here in France.....
So I have the same problem with lid decal,I shall use a liquid wood restorative cleaner to clean all old dirt and crime off the cabinet. If it needs it a very light sanding and then apply a light coating of furniture coloured wax.I have done this method to other treadle cabinets and they have come back to new as when first bought.
As for the decal I think I shall make a feature of it as Ash suggested by leaving a oval or square, this I think would highlight the decal even more.
Then onto the machine, after a good clean with s/m oil and there you have it both items as good as new from the first day of their working life.
Just like to say that I really enjoy reading these stories I have found many tips etc and help, from like minded people.
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Swagbag36

Some time has past and the decal issue has been tackled in such a way that a oval was made and left all other untouched so a compromise as touching it made things worse.

I'm still working my way thru this awfull stuff called shellac or in my words godzilla .. it's like painting whith glue ... it's very very difficult getting it out of all the nooks and cranny's and such it's very difficult getting it to dissolve ...

Working with small sawblade, needles, small pins a brash brush, hard brush etc trying to get it all out and it's not really succesfull to be honest lots of elbow grease and not the result im after.

I have bought some restorers shellac remover (not cheap no chemmicals) but it seems that denatured alcohol does the trick too and cost much less.

It's all about trail and error and with all the experiences now i won't be surprised if i have to sand all to get it to the original colour and than go from there with wood oils and such.

Well no pain no gain as they say.

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