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lholzhu

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Hello to all,
Just looking for some help. My mother purchased this machine a few years ago and I will be the recipient of it. I did a good look over yesterday and got some pictures. I believe it is a VS111 probably dated 1920’s. I have the serial number and will call company later. It is in excellent shape, decals pristine, no visible rust, bobbin and case present. Manual is present and excellent condition. Box with pristine attachments. Also Good Housekeeping sticker in one of the drawers. One unused sewing needle for the machine. It sees and moves very easily, but just needs a little TLC. We are moving in a few weeks and once settled I will bring it to my house. Few questions for you all..
1. The leather belt will need to be replaced. I am not seeing anything to disengage it. I know singer there is a lever but not seeing anything like that here. But I am thinking the only time you would disengage would be to clean/oil/grease bottom of machine. (I did not look at this as I wanted to keep belt on for now.
2. There is a silver plate on the top near the right back than gains access to treadle iron work, does not stay open. Wondering what this is used for?

I have learned a great deal from YouTube videos and some message boards. I believe that this is an oak tiger cabinet. I have not seen one like it, two drawers inside of door on left and pretty fancy legs and door curvature.
If anyone has any thoughts or information ..thanks

Purchased in Waupaca WI, currently in Wautoma, WI relocating to Neshkoro WI.
Purchased for $ 50-100 they don’t remember the price.

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Nice White!  Welcome to the forum.  When you get a chance you may want to post something in the introductions thread so we know a little about the person we are helping.

Now, on to your machine.  Congrats!  These are solid and reliable machines.  The leather belt can just be removed by hand.  it will stretch a little so you can "pop" it off the pulleys.  The belt ends are connected by a metal wire staple like thing.  Needle nose pliers work well, but they do actually make "treadle belt pliers" specifically for the process.

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So disappointing to see the "pin sock' on the arm. This will mean that underneath the decals will be badly scarred no doubt. This pin rag should be removed. Use a pin cushion that you can sit on the table top. Aside from the obvious damage that will be done by the pin rag, it looks to be in excellent condition overall. 

The metal plate on the back of the top is just an access plate to help with putting on a new belt, inspecting to ensure the belt is engaging the drive wheel, etc. 

The belt on a self-rising White is easy to remove. When lifting, before the machine comes all the way up, just slip the belt off the end of the hand wheel. The belt can be replaced by bending out the wire staple that joins the ends and taking the belt apart. Putting on a new belt is easy and there are plenty of sites and Youtube videos to show you how. I'm sure there is one on this forum somewhere, just type it in the search box. 

The treadle cabinet you have is a bit rare. I have a variation of this treadle cabinet for my White Family Rotary (it is a Family Rotary, not a VS III, by the way - it also has the FR prefix on the serial number). Here is a manual that will pretty much explain everything you need on this machine. The White Family Rotary is one of the best classic sewing machines ever made, and one of my personal favorites. 

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lholzhu

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Thanks for sharing the manual and your comments. The sock pin rash is really not bad. I have not done any cleaning. I have removed it and will just keep it in the drawer. Very excited to sew on it in the near future and follow this forum.
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Beautiful machine!  White FR's rock!!!  Especially in a treadle.  Best regards, Mike
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I have the Family Rotary, too, it's a bit older than yours and in a mission-style cabinet.  I replaced the leather belt with a rubber one so I wouldn't have a problem with slipping.  It works like a charm though it isn't traditional.  I love the machine!  It runs beautifully and makes a fine stitch.  Enjoy!  
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Here is my family rotary in our front porch.  I can get umbrella material for 1 dollar a yard here so we will make a cover in the next week approximately along with one for some other machines....quick work on a 4 thread Juki MO-3300 series.  The foot pedal was missing as someone converted it to some cheezy electric motor (our other has an original Hamilton Beach motor that I'm not taking off).  Took motor off and converted back to treadle.  Also the part that locks machine bed to table was missing.  Took a stainless thumb bolt (opposite of wing nut) and matching quarter-twenty thread stainless wing nut, spring from broken portable umbrella (telescoping type that will fit in a purse has amazingly long spring inside) and used a metric nut as a "jamb nut" on other side of wing nut.  Works like a charm and only needs to be turned 180 to release bed.  Because the foot pedal was narrower had to make stainless (then paint black with epoxy paint and epoxy primer) rectangle to make it all fit and work right.  They now sell a rubber belt that looks like leather here so the best of both worlds.  Oh by the way, recommend not ever mentioning rubber belts on the treadle-on group.  That was my first brow beating I received from Helen Hunt when I first joined and was very impressionable as a new to sewing person.  We have a "pleather" rubber belt now (plastic leather/rubber).  I love this machine.  It rocks!!!  That is an 1869 Singer no. 2 sitting next to it now.  I'm days out from receiving my second no 2 head and then will receive two more crates for the table, legs, hand wheel.  The other is from 1864 making it a Civil War machine and it is an Imperial with heavy duty shuttle.  Can't wait to get them both running but will make a pitman arm from the second as a pattern for the first.  We just finished work on this able in the last 1 to 2  weeks.  Next will be our "Asian" table for the other Family Rotary that is going in the tree house.  I have the hardware for self retracting head and other needed parts from eBay auctions.  Thinking to use abaca woven mat into the wood surface and epoxy for the design.  Entire table will need to be completely waterproof just for longevity unlike this one that is a twig design. Best regards, Mike.   White FamilyRotary11AugPic4.jpg  WhiteFamilyRotary11AugPic3.jpg  WhiteFamilyRotary11AugPic2.jpg  WhiteFamilyRotary11AugPic1.jpg 
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