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Farmer John

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The sm is the typical "end loader", with a hook that zig zags with the needle.  The cams would be around 1 1/2 inches in diameter with a n 8mm center hole and a pin drive as seem in the photo.  The recess for cam insertion is quite deep, so the cams likely have a knob for insertion and removal.  Asking for my Amish neighbors, whose sm this is..
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John, finding the right cams for a vintage Japanese machine can be like shooting craps with a blindfold on. This machine may have been badged with any of a dozen or more different names, and it's very rare to have a box of vintage cams actually have a name on them. The model number might be of a little help but the name is not. I'm going to snip the pic and do a little digging around my FB groups, see what I can come up with.

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Any JA or JC numbers? Might give a clue...
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Here you go,  all of the numbers from this beauty.  I noticed the posts regarding the casting numbers on Japanese machines, but I didn't follow the topic.  What can you tell me, Cari and Zorba ?
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John, I'm not going to be much help. I haven't been able to find much online at all about your machine.

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Except to say that they may have also been sold under the "Victor" and "Modern Home" labels (model 145 vs 925, and nearly identical). There are other machines that come very close in design, especially one Brother, but I haven't found much of anything else. Maybe these two other labels can open a door?


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Here you go,  all of the numbers from this beauty.  I noticed the posts regarding the casting numbers on Japanese machines, but I didn't follow the topic.  What can you tell me, Cari and Zorba ?
John
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Looks like Toyota built/designed/assembled the machine (and it *does* look like a Toyota) with castings made by FMK - according to my *current* "working theory". Unfortunately, the cam drive looks different from my Toyota, which is an earlier design.

The whole story, as I know it at this moment, is at:

http://www.doubleveil.net/zssmp/resources.htm#jajc


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John I've put the word out and am just waiting for a response. I have much faith in the gal I asked, she's the undisputed queen of manuals and finding out what cams go to which machines.

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Jim, I just realized that the Victor and the Modern Home you posted don't have a cam door. Duh, no wonder I couldn't find what I was looking for.

John, here you go, Teena came through like she always does.
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Are these the same as what Cari posted? If so, I have an orphan set. Check the underside view in the pic to see if it looks like the hole fits the cam post. Holler if you need measurements. Pic is here:
https://www.victoriansweatshop.com/post/need-id-on-mystery-cams-please-9718245?pid=1303970313

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The view of the cams from Teena, via Cari, doesn't picture an inverted cam to show the drive.  MJ's inverted cam features a "D" shaped drive, which wouldn't work with the "Hood", since it required an 8mm round hole with a single 2.5mm internal keyway.  Also, the maximum diameter of the cam must be slightly under 1 5/8 inches .   I am returning the Hood tomorrow, so the Amish lady will be happy that her sm now operates ss and zz, as before.  It would be just a bonus if she had cams.  Something may turn up.  Thanks to all for your input.
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This is the same machine, is it not? This came from Teena's cam group where people show pics of their machines and cams. I don't have a pic of the underside. Now to go back to FB with a pic of MJ's cams.

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Yes, Cari, the Baldwin sm looks identical to the "Hood".  I just need to keep an eye out for these colorful cams, with the 8mm/pin drive.  I am glad to have the style of cam identified, and cam collectors can add "hood" to the list of machine names that take this cam.
     I see what you mean about shooting craps blindfolded.  Give my thanks to Teena also.
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>>Now to go back to FB with a pic of MJ's cams.<<

Thank you Cari! I appreciate you doing that. It would be nice to know what machine has such cute Easter Egg colored cams. Let me know if you need more info or pics.
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But do they fit a machine badged "Bismarck"? [wink]
Toyota has a tradition of brightly colored cams.

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