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I know it has to do with my greedy state government but I'm really ticked off right now. I've known for a while that my state now requires sales tax to be charged when buying new items from an online store even if it's in another state. Not happy about it but whaddya do. But this is going too far. Last week I bought something from Ebay. Not from a retail store selling on Ebay, just someone unloading something they had. I paid for it with Paypal like I always do.
Well I just checked my bank balance online which is something I do at least once a week since I haven't balanced my checkbook in about 10 years. Lo and behold, there was a $1.17 Paypal charge from Ebay. It was a sales tax charge on my last purchase. It wasn't from the seller, it was from Ebay itself. I did not give Ebay permission to make a separate charge to my Paypal account so how can they do this? I'm thinking about disputing it. In any case, I'm doing a lot less online shopping and thinking about moving my online address to my sisters house in Oregon where there is no sales tax.

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I noticed this as well with Washington state.  Guess it was bound to happen:

https://www.ecommercebytes.com/2019/01/04/ebay-starts-collecting-sales-tax-with-more-states-to-come/

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Wisconsin Dept of Revenue requires self-reporting of sales taxes due on on taxed internet sales, there is a line on the state tax form.
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Florida also requires sales tax on new items and items purchased from a retail business, but I don't think they charge sales tax on sales from private individuals to another private individual.  I think I would check with the Sales Tax Office in your state to see if that is actually required.  If not, I think E-Bay is treading on real dangerous ground.  It sounds like you didn't authorize any payment to E-Bay, but bought directly from the seller.  I don't know, but I know I'm pretty darn careful who I pay money to, and I have only two monthly authorizations (both life insurance)!    Ugh!

EDIT:  The terms of use for E-Bay may require the payment of sales taxes.  And, if your seller is actually operating an "on-line store", then sales taxes would be applicable.

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Well I guess I'm done with Ebay. I'm not paying sales tax on something I buy from a private party. I'll just have my sister buy for me when there's something I can't live without. It's bad enough that our sales tax just went up again. If most of my family wasn't here in/around Olympia I'd move to Oregon.

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Cari,

In Florida, sales tax is only applicable to non-food items, except restaurant food, and some ready-to-eat stuff.  But most states require that sales tax be paid on non-food items, vehicles, furniture, fabric, etc.  No sales tax on medicines in Florida, either.  If you buy a bottle of aspirin, you pay the price for the aspirin and that's it, no sales tax.  Likewise, Florida does not have a state income tax.  But, most states do require sales tax on those non-food items, and a sewing machine attachment or a machine itself, would be taxable, even in Florida.

It is likely that your E-Bay Seller is operating a small out-of-their-home type of business and that's why you were charged with sales tax.  Our grocery bill is much less because we aren't taxed on food items, unless it's a ready-to-eat item.  For instance, a sub sandwich purchased in a convenience store would be taxable.  That's just life -- Our sales tax is I think 6-1/2 to 7%, depending on the county in which you live.  Some counties enact extra sales tax to pay for road improvements, etc.   I don't know what your tax rate is in Washington, but I'd bet you'd have to pay sales tax in any other state, because E-Bay Sellers are operating an online business.

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Jeanette there are many Ebay sellers who are operating as a business, and those sellers do charge sales tax. But many sellers are people who are just unloading stuff they no longer need. When I used to sell on Ebay since I wasn't a business I didn't have to charge sales tax on what I sold. I made a lot of money and could've done it as a business if I wanted to spend all day every day doing it. I didn't want to. I bought large lots of beading and jewelry making supplies, took what I wanted out of it and sold the rest as smaller lots. At the time I also belonged to a bulk buying group on Yahoo for the same supplies. I bought a lot of stuff in bulk for fantastic prices and sold the excess on Ebay. If I had been forced to charge sales tax back then I wouldn't have done it. Nor would I have bought all that I did if I had to pay it. I wasn't a business, I was a beader looking for great deals on my own supplies and offering great deals to other beaders. Semantics I guess.
Washington is now requiring sales tax to be paid on ANYTHING we buy from ANYWHERE. This is like saying any private sale has to be taxed. Any private sale of of a used item has to be taxed if it's on Ebay. I won't do it.
The exceptions for our state are the same as Florida - groceries, though drinks are taxed including bottled water. Depending on what county our sales tax is now over 10% and higher in some places. It's ridiculous, we are one of the highest taxed states in the country.

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Try "Commiefornia" for high taxes - but the contagion is spreading to Oregon and Washington - and Colorado as well.
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It wouldn't have been so bad if I had only been taxed on my purchase but I was taxed for the total cost. Item+shipping. How can a shipping cost have a sales tax?

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Cari,

What is taxable varies from one state to another.  There was a time when a sales tax was enacted on labor -- I was a legal assistant in a real estate legal practice, and we were forced to charge sales tax and file sales tax reports every month for some period of time.  There was so much uproar from the citizenry of the state that the sales tax on labor was ultimately repealed, and Florida no longer requires sales tax to be charged on attorney's fees, title insurance fees, etc.  At any time you are buying a quantity of material, retaining some for your own use, but selling the remainder to others, under sales tax regulations in Florida, you must collect sales tax and file reports and remit the sales tax to the state's department of revenue.  Essentially, even though you did not do that every day, because you bought and sold different quantities (and I presume more often than once or twice), you probably should have been charging sales tax, filing and remitting the sales tax to your state's department of revenue -- but what the rules are for Washington are not necessarily the same as they are in Florida.  If I buy something, unless it is food items (groceries) or medicine, I know I'm going to be paying sales tax on it.  Generally, in Florida, during August (just before school starts) there is a period of a week of sales tax exemption for school clothing and school supplies (it is limited to a certain dollar amount, and I don't remember what that is).  So, during that one week, no sales tax is charged for those particular items.   

I feel blessed that we are not assessed or charged for sales tax on our groceries or medicines.  There has been a lot of litigation across the country brought by many different states, and resulting court rulings made that require "retailers" or other "sellers" to charge sales tax, yes, even on shipping.

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Its being charged in shipping because of idiots that sell things for 1 cent, and charge $99.99 shipping in an attempt to get around sales tax. Thanx guys...
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