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Mkwatts

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The 115 with a "Deluxe" motor I picked up is almost ready to be put back together. The motor is running well but I noticed it is 1 amp. My 128 has a .45 amp. The 15.90 has a .53 amp. The 201. 101 and 15.91's were built to use their direct drive motors. This was added later or replaced a damaged motor. Is the after market one amp Deluxe motor too strong for a 115? Could a higher amp motor damage a treadle type machine? Thanks
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The 1.0 amp motor on the 115 is not going to hurt it at all. It's actually an upgrade. Singer had a history of putting puny motors on their machines. Pfaff, or example, put 1.2 and 1.3 amp motors on their Pfaff 130 and 230 machines. Sears Kenmores, like the ones in my collection, almost all have 1.2 amp motors. You can always seek and install a Singer motor if you want.

-Bruce
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Mkwatts

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Thanks. I will use the Deluxe. I already cleaned and reseated the brushes and had to solder a wire. It is strong (and free). I just wasn't sure about mixing treadle built machinery with high speed motor power. Thanks for your help.

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ke6cvh

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Hello group,  To add to Bruce's comment on the Kennie's.   Our 158's have double internal belts and pulley reduction to add to the already more powerful motors.  I love our 158 series Kenmores.  Best regards, Mike
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Just  as a side note re using motors on old treadle heads, Singer themselves had a service during the Deperession or World War 2 where they reconditioned old treadle machines, repainted them in a crinkle mat finish (aka "Godzilla" finish), added a Singer name plate and put motors on them. I have seen photos of an old Singer Improved Family machine (forerunner of the Singer 15) that was done this way. Even the old Singer 127 was still offered as an electric well into 1955. 

Anyone who has a treadle also knows that if you can treadle fast enough, you can get an old Singer treadle head to zip along pretty darned fast. 

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Hi Bruce,  I think it is still on eBay as we speak but there is a Wheeler and Wilson no 9 (not a later D9 so this places it in the early 1890's late 1880's)  that is in a portable case with motor.  The head has the krinkle finish which was done even over the center Wheeler and Wilson badge on the bed of machine and has a simple Wheeler and Wilson lettering on the arm of the head.  Machine looks to be in excellent shape.  Wheeler and Wilson sold out to Singer in 1905 (or was it 1906 I get the date sometimes confused).   
Best regards,
Mike

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