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Hello group,

  Here is a very interesting youtube video below.  I know there are fans of the silent film (with music dubbed in) of the Singer factory in the U.K.  This is a modern version of it.

  I was in a discussion with a big dealer of vintage machines and we discussed Siruba.  He told me that Juki no longer makes their own industrial overlocks and they are made by Siruba.  He also told me that most is copies of tried and proven machine designs but he also said that even though the Chinese are making great lockstitch machines the chain stitch machines are not quite there yet.....but I have to wonder if this leapfrog has not also been made after watching this video and seeing some of their patents.  Same person right stated that the Chinese are doing quite well in automation.

  Levi's recently went (again) to public traded to get 100's of millions of dollars available.  I have to wonder if they are investing in automation and if they are going to use those hundreds of millions to finally set up an automated factory in USA.  

  DARPA funded quite a while back research and development in automation because of the Brady act and the fact that factories making clothes (and military uniforms) are getting fewer between.  From that research came a factory in USA that the Chinese paid hundreds of millions of dollars for on US soil. 
  This is the article about the factory owned buy Chinese using Darpa funded research monies developed into company:  https://www.therobotreport.com/chinese-factory-sets-arkansas-make-t-shirts-using-u-s-robots/
 




  So, the race is on.   Likely without US government assistance the Chinese will win this race.  That Siruba factory in the youtube video is very impressive.  The only thing that could be questioned is quality of loopers and quality of steel but that is something with the technology shown in the video that is easy to overcome. They can copy almost everything else as it is old tech but Siruba also has recent patents of their own that supposedly improve upon 4 motion feed dogs etc and use laser engraved tags that eliminate clones.  Recently they won a lawsuit against one of the clone manufacturers in China.  I see Siruba poised as one of the biggest world players in sewing machines being they are making for big names like Juki.  Note...at the close of the sewbot article they discuss same company working on automation of production on jeans and at the beginning talked about the shirts costing 33 US cents to produce with everything factored in.  It has been years since this company first bragged about being able to do this with jeans.  It first made towels according to another article then finally was able to make the shirts.  Allot more complicated but jeans are the next step as is uniforms.  My guess is leveraging to do this.  Instead of an entire factory of robots maybe they will start out with less of them in a controlled environment (this is how I would do it if I was in charge) and move up in numbers as the technology matures more.  

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Mike
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I will try to watch these at lunch today.  thanks for sharing!


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This falls into line with the recent Documentary Film "American Factory" which is available on NetFlix. With my being a retired Union Steamfitter, the movie was a real eye-opener for me! 
  

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Interesting movie reference.  I giggled (googled) it and studied it a bit.  Apparently this movie was the first movie released through Barrack and Michelle Obama's movie company.  Here is a counter review to the movie and it's supposed accolades:  https://nypost.com/2019/08/27/netflix-is-now-a-propaganda-machine-for-the-obamas/

  I am neither going to agree or dis agree with the NY Post opinion right now but instead make the comment that out of concern as a US Citizen and military veteran of almost 30 years I spend quite a bit of time studying the CCP, Chinese Communist Party, and trust very little of anything coming out of it.  Many of the billionaires in China must answer to the CCP and it's military branch the PLA.  Yes, the Chinese are very efficient but that does not mean as a country we must roll over with our bellies up and must trade on their terms or anyone's for that matter when it comes to domestic consumption (or specifically the tariffs around it).  This is where the US Government can step in to ensure our capitol infrastructure is a case of balance and harmony (pun intended to borrow from ancient Chinese believes/philosophy).  

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I hear ya, Mike. I'm not particularly happy that we somehow got in bed with the Red Chinese either. I'm sure you know COSCO (China Ocean Shipping COmpany) is also owned by the Chinese Military.
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Hello Zorba,

  Consumer goods are the new "Opium War" and the economy can be seen as a human body that has been having a substance abuse problem.  

  Corporate greed coupled with lack of regulations (in the right areas as there are certainly plenty of them in the wrong areas) to protect us from foreign competition that takes advantage of lower standard of living and work person's compensation as well as regulations made it impossible to compete and 10's (something like over 70 thousand) of thousands of factories going overseas.

  Marx of all people saw in the 1800's that those who controlled industry held the cards and controlled the game.  There are two types of imperialism.  Traditional and marxist/modern imperialism.  Red china has always been imperialist in the ancient times and now with their mixed economy coupled with absolute control when needed by the ccp/pla is a dangerous mix.

  Now not only us but our children and the rest of the free Western world as well have to deal with the consequences that were so easy to get into and now so hard to get out of.  No pain no gain.  

  I took a college class over 30 years ago that was IT and called "The Information Age".  Theme was that our economy was to become solely based upon services and that we (us superior folks) could rely on manufacturing to be overseas.  The BBC documented well that the global climate issues are coupled to over population coupled with over consumerism.  This is why it is so great to be into vintage sewing machines.    Now that we are in desperate times the desperate measures that can be seen in politics now are a result.

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Yep. Add in planned obsolescence and luxury goods being sold as the new "regular" (read over-powered and over-equipped cars - as well as smartphones), and no-body will live within their means in order to obtain these luxuries just adds oxygen to an already hot fire! I don't mind paying extra for quality, but I don't want unnecessary feature or products, and I only want to buy ONCE.
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It's all kind of moot, since the price we've all paid for convenience, and for low cost products, is the eminent destruction of the planet.  (Or, more precisely, of our habitat.)

Easy come, easy go....

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Yes,  when I was a kid I loved Star Trek.  Even as a kid I could tell there was something wrong with the theme of science solving everything.  Kind of like a "chaos theory" situation with Jurassic Park movies.  Then the makers realized this and to appease the fans created the Borg to show that all science is not necessarily good.  With modern advances it allows us to cram the planet even more and push things even more to the limits.  With those same so-called advances comes a price and that is to the planet.  Best regards, Mike.  
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