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Hi, new to this site. I have recently bought 2 vintage Singers. One in almost pristine condition and one not. The redeye is from 1916, and I believe was originally a treadle. I am debating totally redoing this machine, with new paint and decals. And converting back to treadle, which I do have a treadle cabinet. Is this idea totally out of reach for an inexperienced person?? Should I just convert to treadle and not mess with the paint and decals? I will post pictures. One will be the good one and one the not so good lol. Oh also, on the 66 the cords are shot

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Live with the redeye as it is for a while and maybe you'll warm up to it. Signs of use, in my opinion, give a machine character and history. The wear on the redeye is gentle and natural, not like a machine that's been abused. Also consider that, if you're going to use it, you won't have to worry about blemishing the finish. (I have a couple of pristine machines and frankly, I'm reluctant to use them for fear of causing damage from an unseen pin or the like.) You need a slide plate to cover the bobbin.

Converting to treadle is a cinch. There is a little bit of tweaking required to get the treadle belt the right length. It should be as loose as it can be and still not slip - and then just a smidge tighter. You'll see what I mean when you're setting it up. Go for it. Millions of people did it 100 years ago, so you can too.

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Welcome to the club, I hope you enjoy.
There are lots of people here who have lots of expertise with these beauties, and will have advice to offer if needed.

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Thanks y'all, to be honest I will probably only use the 66 for display. The 15-91 is not quite as flashy and it is in original condition, but it sews like a dream and I wouldn't mind moving it out to my sewing shop. That's why I was considering totally redoing to appearance of the 66. But it won't be today lol so I will just look at it awhile.
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Decals are available from Keeler:
http://www.keelersales.com/decals/

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Ok thank you
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Two very nice machines. Treadle the 15 and hand crank the Redeye. Don't paint it. It Is very nice like it is. You can French polish that and it will be outstanding. I like the beater machines, something about them works so nice and no fear of ruining one that has wear. If I were on my lap top I would put up some before and after pics of a Redeye that looked a lot worse before but looks good now and sews nice as a hand crank. Skip has some threads on quilt board about restoring the finish. We collaborated on another tutorial there, too. The 15 is such a nice machine. So easy to work on if needed.
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A side note can we keep the how-to forum for how-tos. Keep questions like this to the general forum.
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Well I am very sorry I posted in wrong forum
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I'm thinking you confused "Please tell me how to..." with "This is how to do....."
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I am astounded. If this forum is that picky to correct s new member over something that minute, I probably just don't need to be here. Sorry to take up your forum space.
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I have to say that I agree with sbamos. He/she just wanted to fix up an old sewing machine to his/her liking. 

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I agree Sbamos it is your machine and if that is what you want to do that is fine with me. We are really not that picky we just like old machines and the way they look. I say go for it. We do have a lot of info here you can use. Most of us use our old machines and we love them. You are not taking up forum space.
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The defined purpose of the How-To section.
" If you have great way to do things, SHARE it here"
That's not confusing at all. Sbamos didn't mean to ruffle your feathers. The purpose of the how-to forum section is well defined however. I'm not a moderator but once threads start getting into the wrong sections. the whole forum gets messy and nobody knows where to post anything. Adding sub sections to the forum just makes it worse. Threads will end up buried with no replies. Its best to have just a few well defined forum sections. A place for everything and everything in its place as the saying goes.
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No problem. Thank you Manalto and Skipper for your kind words, but I'll just unregister my account, I will not stay on a site where there is rudeness, I will just look for my info elsewhere.
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Well aren't we easily offended. But I tell you what you stay and I'll leave.
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...I will not stay on a site where there is rudeness...


Yeah, good luck with that. [rolleyes]

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Oh my. Is it a full moon? Or is it the unusually hot weather causing all this thin skin?

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Wow! I hope it wasn't my comment that tipped that person over the edge. In re-reading it, I can see how it could be taken wrong. I was trying to explain to him/her that I understood how the error was made. That it was simply a misreading of the section title. Gee..
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That's a pity. Admittedly, I have shied away from forums because of this type of thing. I don't think anyone intentionally did anything wrong. KGtwo, I heard you trying to clarify phansen's correct information. This forum is far too patient and friendly and I hope sbamos changes his/her mind. Other forums are far less patient. I just got sniped for not signing a post. No full moon. Nice new avatar James.
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Wow, I think phansen left too. He was very knowledgeable. Darn.
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You're right. How unfortunate, I hope he changes his mind.
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I hope they both do. We really are a nice group. 
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Perhaps the How-To section could be renamed to make the meaning more precise. "Tips and Tricks," maybe. I know that's not the right title, but my brain is on sand and ocean right now and words aren't coming out. Or another section called "Ask your questions here!"

I hate to lose anyone! It's so hard to express emotions in just a few words. Please come back, Peter and sbamos!

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"You can leave in a taxi. If you can't get a taxi, you can leave in a huff. If that's too soon, you can leave in a minute and a huff. "

- Groucho Marx, Duck Soup

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Hey folks.  Sorry I was not online this weekend to try to head this off.

Ok to summarize as I understand it.

1.  A new user posted a thread in the wrong place. (no big deal)
2.  5 polite replies
3.  An existing user points out error in which thread it was posted. (no problem)
4.  new user is offended (not sure why)
5.  New user AND person who corrected BOTH leave the site?

I think What I will do is to create a "sticky" message for the beginning of each section with a small explanation of the intended use.

Of course we want to keep some form of organization
Of course we understand that stuff happens
Of course the people here are more important than the "structure"

Sorry folks got spun up instead of letting it go.

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What we write always sounds much sterner and more serious than the way we would speak.  Once we understand that, then we can move on in good shape.  Nobody is out to hurt someone's feelings.  We are adults and sometime the "love" just doesn't come through the keyboard strong enough.
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I agree with Donna, and would like to add that frequently it is a choice whether to be offended or not. Sure, there are situations where the offense is unmistakable, but many others where someone was a little too blunt, in a hurry, careless about choice of words, etc., where we can choose not to be offended. Why not look past it, diffuse it with humor, ask the poster for a clearer explanation, or any one of dozens of possible responses that don't involve indignation and anger? I tend to be a little thin-skinned and have embarrassed myself more than once (it was only twice [rolleyes]) by reacting too strongly to a perfectly innocent remark. When someone is truly offensive, you have the support of the entire community behind you; when they're not, a hot-headed response just makes you look silly.

I see no evidence of ill-will from anyone posting here; that's a good thing to keep in mind when a comment appears to sting.

Manalto will now step down from his pulpit.

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There was nothing rude in the way it was pointed out by phanson and I thought the new user was unreasonable in his extreme reaction, but the existing member proved to be also just as easily offended.

Is there something in the water or are some people's egos really that fragile?

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tense times.....  
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Hhhhmmmm,, I'll share my box of Tension Tamer tea if anybody needs some.
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Or, just over yonder, you can step through them there swinging doors and have yourself something a mite bit stronger.

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Or, just over yonder, you can step through them there swinging doors and have yourself something a mite bit stronger.

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Oh my. At the kids' birthday party Saturday there was a couple of fancy bottles being passed around so I graciously accepted when it was offered and took a swig. Heartburn hit me like a ton of bricks. Usually only vodka does this to me. I turned the bottle around to see what it was and it was Hennessy cognac. I couldn't believe those fools were chugging $80 sipping liquor.

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I can't believe they paid $80 for low-end liquor with frou-frou marketing. (Yes, I can.)

Have you tried Fireball? Sweet; you only want one, but it's nostalgic fun.

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Irish Mist.....mmmmmmm nothing better
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Nothing like good old Gentleman Jack here. Only 30 miles from the distillery.
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I've always been a Jack Daniels girl. When I was young(and wild) I could drink anything. Now that I'm old and tamed, I drink very little. Maybe an Angry Orchard when we go out to eat.
James I can't drink Fireball, it's another one that gives me instant heartburn. I used to work with some gals who always had that or the stuff with gold flakes(can't spell that either) in their coffee.

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Dear Singer 66ers:
I am working on oiling and cleaning a Singer 66 treadle and having fun sewing with it. Stitches are lovely! The thread penetration is not good and I don't know why. I don't know how to adjust the pressure on the presser foot. It is stuck. Or is it a clutch issue? I would appreciate your wisdom.

Thank you so much!
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I am not sure what you mean by poor thread penetration. The screw adjustment at the top of the pressure bar turns in for more press or out for less. If this is stuck and will not turn it may need oiling before it will turn. It is just a bar with a spring around it. If the pressure release with lift the foot up and down it is the screw adjustment that is frozen. You can place a drop or two of kerosene and let it set for a while.

You may have a dull needle also.

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If what's stuck is the round "knob" that surrounds the bit of the presser foot bar that protrudes above the faceplate, then you should know in advance that those can sometimes be very stuck.  The temptation to try using a pair of pliers may be high -- don't give in!  Pliers will strip the little knurled ridges off that adjuster faster than you can say "damn".  Don't ask me how I know this, please.  It's painful...  :-)

As Skipper says, oil it, perhaps with penetrating oil of some sort.  It took a long time to get stuck -- it may take a while to unstick it.

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Thanks for all the info, all. I'll let the unsticking stuff sit overnight and try again.

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I had a pressure foot bar stuck on two 66 RedEyes, 1917 vintage or so. I oiled and turned and turned and oiled. I could not get the turn to budge. One came free, not the other. I finally relented and called in DH. Who fairly easily turned that darn knob by hand. I just didn't have the finger strength to loosen it!

You may find one of those flat promotional jar grippers/openers may help.

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I'll try that. Thank you.
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