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Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but... I have, ahem, a number of 66 Red Eye/Redhead machines. The previous owner had removed most parts for cleaning including the bobbin winders. In cleaning and reassembling one of the heads I grabbed an already assembled bobbin winder (some are disassembled [eek] which would maybe not cause panic in most of you, but I was considerably dismayed... [wink] and attempted to install it, but it doesn't line up right. It's been several weeks so I don't remember the details of why I couldn't install it. Ugh. I just thought I might ask some preliminary questions before I go at it again. I am having foot surgery tomorrow and will be laid up a while. My fantasy is that I might have time to sort through the winders and put some together during my time of immobility. We shall see...

Now I recall that the bobbin winder was changed over the years. There were some that ran from the belt and some that ran on the wheel itself... I've seen some were referred to as "cam" versions, some were "rim" versions and some were "simple" versions? Some had a heart "cam" on the outside of the spinny round disc - is that the cam version? How do I find out which version went to which years? Anyone know? I would have thought that these Red Eyes would all have the same kind of bobbin winder, but perhaps not...? I need to go through the bin of winder parts again... But if I have variations, I need to know which years got which bobbin winder. I have made some forays into the interwebs but haven't found anything helpful yet. Does anyone have a resource for this? 

This is all I found so far: (there's a little chart at the bottom which might help, but I don't have corresponding manufacture dates)

https://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/66/

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The RedHead decal set was used on the Model 66 from 1902 to 1923 in the USA.  I have a number of redheads, which I will check for BW design and date.
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Thanks John, mine range from 1912 to 1923. 😉
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About a month ago, I did some bobbin winder research for someone on the other board, until I finally figured out that the problem was the belt hub (at post #18).  Some of the resources I have found for 66 machines can be found at https://www.manualslib.com/manual/154170/Singer-66-1.html  https://www.manualslib.com/manual/154171/Singer-66-4.html  and https://www.manualslib.com/manual/154172/Singer-66-6.html There is also a Red Head pictured in the 1924 catalog as seen at https://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollections/Trade-Literature/Sewing-Machines/NMAHTEX/0145/imagepages/image209.htm Note that it has the heart shaped cam on the back.  The Lotus pictured in the 1908 catalog, showing the front heart shaped cam, can be found at  https://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollections/Trade-Literature/Sewing-Machines/NMAHTEX/1793/imagepages/image205.htm  The bobbin winder I have on my Lotus, that I removed from a Red Head, has the tire riding on the hand wheel hub, and not the belt. 

Do they all have the spoked hand wheel?

Janeyhttps://www.manualslib.com/manual/154171/Singer-66-4.html

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Thanks, Janey. My web search didn't turn up that particular thread - I will go read it. I'm hoping that somehow I can know, eventually, which bobbin winder version to use for each head based on the year it was made. Confession: I have 24 heads to sort out.
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My 66K Lotus decal made in Nov 1925 has the cam on the back of the disc and the tyre runs on the balance wheel back rim, if this helps.

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My 66K Lotus decal made in Nov 1925 has the cam on the back of the disc and the tyre runs on the balance wheel back rim, if this helps.Peter


Also my 66K Lotus made in Jan 1923 has the cam on the front of the disc; tyre as above

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Very interesting! Thanks, Peter. 😊👍
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