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Hiyah!

I have recently bought a Singer 328K and after some cleaning (a lot) some oiling (even more!) it sews nicely, the only problem is sewing in the "fine" area -in the indented area above the 20 mark on the stitch length slider- whenever I go above the 20 mark into the indented area even slightly, the feed is so infenitesimal that I end up with a knotty ball of thread on my fabric... It is a bit annoying when you want to do a satin stitch or use the fancy cams...
Is there a something I'm missing? do the feed dogs need adjusting? Is it a question of sewing extra slowly?

Thank you for any enlightenment!
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Just wondering if you need to use a very fine thread and needle eye to use the ultra fine stitch? Maybe that might be it, just a guess. I have never had one of those machine ever.

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Thanks John Stuart πŸ˜‰ I wonder... With my Singer 354 Genie, I am able to make satin stitch in the "fine" area with whatever thread and needle I want but then every machine is different.
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Hiyah!

I have recently bought a Singer 328K and after some cleaning (a lot) some oiling (even more!) it sews nicely, the only problem is sewing in the "fine" area -in the indented area above the 20 mark on the stitch length slider- whenever I go above the 20 mark into the indented area even slightly, the feed is so infenitesimal that I end up with a knotty ball of thread on my fabric... It is a bit annoying when you want to do a satin stitch or use the fancy cams...
Is there a something I'm missing? do the feed dogs need adjusting? Is it a question of sewing extra slowly?

Thank you for any enlightenment!

Whenever you are doing decorative stitching/satin stitching be sure to use a foot - I think it's called the multipurpose foot - that has a tunnel underneath to let the thread build up through - otherwise the thread builds up, the feeds get stuck and you end up with a knot.  Thread thickness should not matter if you adjust the length appropriately - for example you will need a slightly longer length with a thicker thread.

Another hint is to use a lighter weight bobbin thread - about 60 wt. Be sure to go into the "fine" area in very slow increments until you are happy with the result.  Tensions should be on the looser side.

And depending on the fabric, you may need a stabilizer or starch.  Good luck!!
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Thank you Chaly, I will play with the tension and see if I have one of those multi purpose feet 😊
I'm glad to hear that there is no mechanical problem
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Actually it's called the Special Purpose Foot. It's designed with a bottom tunnel to let any bulk slide through and allows maximum visibility and maneuverability - such as decorative stitching, buttonholes, monograms, appliquΓ© work, etc.

Here's a photo from Singer's Teacher's Textbook of Machine Sewing:
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Hi Chaly,  I just learned yet again something new by watching the posts on V.S.S.   thanks!  Last week it was some wood working related items this week it is special purpose feet.  Here is an auction showing the button foot, special purpose foot, straight foot for a very decent price.  Best regards, Mike
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Singer-161168-Button-Foot-161167-Special-Purpose-Foot-170071-Straight-Foot/173897610392?hash=item287d1af498:g:ANQAAOSwok9c02TI
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The special purpose foot is also shown on page 42 of the pdf manual Bruce (JonesHand52) posted. I have found a few of these that are broken, especially the slant shank ones. If you can get a slant shank adapter for modern snap-on feet, there is one that has a channel in a regular ZZ foot.

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Actually it's called the Special Purpose Foot. It's designed with a bottom tunnel to let any bulk slide through and allows maximum visibility and maneuverability - such as decorative stitching, buttonholes, monograms, appliquΓ© work, etc.

Here's a photo from Singer's Teacher's Textbook of Machine Sewing:


Thank you Chaly! I love that book of yours! I may "need" to get one someday!

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The special purpose foot is also shown on page 42 of the pdf manual Bruce (JonesHand52) posted. I have found a few of these that are broken, especially the slant shank ones. If you can get a slant shank adapter for modern snap-on feet, there is one that has a channel in a regular ZZ foot. 

Janey


Of course Janey, you are right... As usual I skimmed through the manual and missed some things...

As it is, my 328 came without any attachments of any kind so I don't have this foot -which I'm not surprised gets broken; it looks pretty flimsy to me-
But, last Sunday at a yard sale, I bought fashion discs and presser feet from a 306 (306 already sold, buyer did not want the accessories... [confused])
So, rummaging through the box and through the few accessories from my Singer 354 Genie / Starlet, I found these 3 feet that have a groove underneath

IMG_20190829_164606_resized_20190829_044636937.jpg    IMG_20190829_164501_resized_20190829_044637631.jpg 
from left to right

Satin Stich Foot (#105251)
Buttonhole Foot (#88818)
Both from the 306
Special Purpose Foot (snap on with the adapter #171498)
From the 354

Until I can lay my hands on the right Special Purpose Foot for the 328, I guess these will have to do! 
I'll have a go with each to test...

Update: the Satin Stitch Foot was not conclusive, same problems as with the General Purpose Foot. However the Buttonhole Foot and the clear Special Purpose Foot from the Genie worked both like charms 😊😊 : pretty thick satin stitch and full decorative balls and arrowheads.
Thank you 😊😊😊

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Hi Chaly,  I just learned yet again something new by watching the posts on V.S.S.   thanks!  Last week it was some wood working related items this week it is special purpose feet.  Here is an auction showing the button foot, special purpose foot, straight foot for a very decent price.  Best regards, Mike
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Singer-161168-Button-Foot-161167-Special-Purpose-Foot-170071-Straight-Foot/173897610392?hash=item287d1af498:g:ANQAAOSwok9c02TI


Arf, very tempting but once again in the US so twice the listed price in postage....

Why can't Europeans sell goodies too lol

EDIT: wait, these are Slant Shank... the Singer 328 is Low Shank so no regrets [wink]
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Your special purpose foot with the adapter should work.  Treat it gently - I've had several of these older plastic ones crack.

I think though should be able get a modern snap on foot (in your location) that will serve your purpose.
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I've updated my post (I didn't want to be triple posting here) and it works indeed πŸ˜‰ so does the buttonhole foot for that matter. Thank you for the insight Chaly!
The plastic on the Genie foot has grown yellowish and as you said, I think it may crack. I will get one of these big trays full of snap on feet you can get off Amazon from China. It will serve my needs nicely as I'm not an avid sewist and even if some of the charm of sewing with vintage stuff will be lost it will be practical (up until French people decide to put up their VSM for sale instead of throwing them away πŸ˜‰)
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I picked up a 128 a few weeks ago, and in the storage area was a paper bag from a Singer store (with receipt from 1980) with a brand new bobbin case and a brand new all-metal special purpose foot!  I had to look up what it was.  I haven't tried it yet.

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