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The Even Feed foot for the Singer 301 has no quilt bar/guide and no hole to mount one.  So the question is, how does one accurately do evenly spaced line quilting on this machine without a bar guide?  I can see jury-rigging a guide from another machine with Scotch tape, maybe.  I rather hate just tossing out the idea of using this machine with a walking foot, or piecing only.  What would you do?  Just use a different machine for line quilting?
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June Tailor makes a grid marking square about 15" or so. I have one but haven't used it. Just mark the lines, then quilt merrily away!

PS - where did you get your walking foot? I bought one from EBay but can't get it on correctly. Could you please post a picture so I can see if it's the same as mine? Mine is new, not vintage.

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June Tailor makes a grid marking square about 15" or so. I have one but haven't used it. Just mark the lines, then quilt merrily away! PS - where did you get your walking foot? I bought one from EBay but can't get it on correctly. Could you please post a picture so I can see if it's the same as mine? Mine is new, not vintage.


Here is a link to a picture like the foot I bought.  I think it's original Singer made in Germany:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTE5OFgxNjAw/z/jpEAAOSwwo1Xfjvv/$_57.JPG 
I haven't tried it on my 301 yet, but if it doesn't work without having to alter the action arm, I'll let you know.  I'll try it tonight.

PS--I read today that the thread cutter on the 301 presser foot bar must be removed so it will not interfere with the even feed housing when using the original foot.  It is probable that the after market even feed feet need to have the U shape that fits over the needle clamp screw made deeper at the bottom of the U so the arm doesn't bind.  It can be done with a Dremel.

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My 301 doesn't have its thread cutter. Perhaps it once had an even feed foot.
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Mark lines on the quilt with a washable marker, soap sliver, or chalk and then stitch on the lines and wash when done?
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I thought of marking;  that's a lot of extra work.  I was thinking specifically of an entire quilt done with straight-line squares or diamonds and don't relish marking all those lines and then trying to get rid of them.  On the other hand, the foot itself can be a guide, too...and there are times when I would probably forget where I am going unless there were marks to follow.  
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Margaret,
I removed the thread cutter, (which would have been in the way), from the 301 and tried out the Singer Even Feed C-400 (with the 5 in a circle marked on it) that I just got.  It works like a charm and fits very well.  Looks kinda cute!  It made a nice, even 1/4" seam.  So maybe I'll piece with it and quilt on something else like the Davis NVF if I can find a quilting guide for it.  Or the 15-91.  Or the Pfaff 1473...decisions, decisions...[wink]

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I'll see if removing the thread cutter does the job. Thanks!

I have quilting guides for several of my machines but have never used them. I always mark my lines somehow. Actually, I usually use wiggly lines so I don't have to mark them!

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Have you ever tried the Clover Hera Marker for making lines on a quilt? I swear by it. It's every bit as good as a seam guide, plus there are no pencil/pen lines to remove afterwards.

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I haven't tried this marker, but just now watched YouTube for a demo.  Great little tool; I'll get one!  Thank you for the recommendation.
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Singer never made a walking foot for the 301. This comes up from time to time on several groups. Some have been able to get one to work, others haven't. Jenny at Sew Classic sells one that she modifies herself for the 301 but I haven't bought one to try it.

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Singer did make a walking "Even Feed" foot for the slant shank machine, though perhaps not to include the 301.  Mine has a 5 inside a circle marked on it, and I have seen the same circle with a 6 on another Singer WF.  They look the same to me.  Maybe these were for the 500 and 600 series--correct me if I am way off on this info; they did make those series of Singers, right?  I know next to nothing about slant shank Singers.  Anyway, I got my foot to work well after removing the thread cutter as mentioned above, so that's good, and I didn't have to modify the arm as must be done to the after-market WF.


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Yes there is a slant walking foot, but if I remember right technically it's for zig zag machines. There wasn't one made for a 301 but people are finding ways to make the available slant feet work. Though I don't see how, with the teeth of the foot outside of the feed dogs.

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Cari, you are right!  After reading your post, I found that the feed dogs don't line up, and that doesn't say much for my powers of observation earlier.  Well, I came here to learn, and I'm grateful for that.  Fortunately, I have a WF for the Singer 201/15-91, and a Pfaff with IDT. Anyone need to buy a WF for the ZZ slant shank Singer?  Or should I keep it to assist pulling a quilt sandwich through a little less efficiently?  [smile]
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Patty if it works for you then by all means use it! I didn't intend to bring you down, just telling what I know from years of belonging to too many groups. I was just reading this morning about the same subject on another group that one of the slant walking feet was for the 404, but since the feed dogs are different than the 301(even though they're both ss machines) it doesn't work on a 301. I can't vouch for this as I don't think I have a slant walking foot to try on my 404.

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I don't feel put down at all...if you were close, you could try my WF on your 404.  I think I'll hang onto it;  it does work even though it isn't a perfect fit.  
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Patty, I inherited a couple of Singer 750 Golden T & S, together with a full load of attachments, which included a Singer "Even Feed" foot.  It also works on my 403-A (I am not as knowledgeable about those things as Cari is, or any of the others on this forum) -- all I can say is that it works on my 403, not very well (I chalk that up to "operator error"!) but it does work -- I haven't spent much time with it -- I've spent more time piecing quilt blocks using my 201 and I love that machine!
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Must be an after the sewing machine manufactued date product:  I haven't taken a photo of it, but on a classic machine parts website, I know I've ordered a walking foot for slant foot sewing machines.  I've used it on my 301A but really can't tell you if feeddogs are lining up exactly.  Haven't paid very good attention, have I?  I know the w.f. does work.  I'll have to investigate this tonight and take a photo.
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As for the original question...I wonder if you could rig up a laser pointer that would serve as your guide?  Point it where the quilting line you'd be following should be - maybe tape it to your machine with painter's tape?  Or find a goose-neck lamp and tape it to that?
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I have SewClassic's slant walking foot, and I do use it on the 301. It is good, but not great, because starting out on the piecing is difficult, chain piecing is better. I assumed it was ME! And it still could be. [smile]. I will have to look and see about the dogs.

The thread cutter was already missing on my 301, so I did not have to wrangle with the fit.

Should this WF get a drop of oil now and then?

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Thanks, Patricia, for starting this thread. I don't have time to mess with my 301 just now, but I will refer back to this when I do!
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I measured mine (from Sew-Classics) and was surprised to find the feed dogs on the walking foot are wider than the machine's feed dogs.  Don't know why it works, but it does!  Yes, machine's thread cuttter has to be removed in order for this to fit.   IMG_1639.JPG 

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Can anyone tell me exactly what to do to make my slant shank walking foot fit the 301? Apparently I got one that had not been modified, and I can't find anywhere that tells me what to do! The thread cutter is off, I can screw in the foot, but it wobbles around when I try to make stitches with it.  Something is rubbing somewhere, and I don't know where! Getting ready to quilt flannel and fleece together, which may not be such a great idea on this machine anyway.

Just tried the WF from my friend's T & S 605, numbered C-400.  It doesn't work either.

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The arm that follows the needle bar and hooks over the needle set screw. That slot on the even feed arm is not deep enough for the 301, so it binds during the stroke. You need a round file of the right diameter to file a few mm deeper into that slot. Take it to the hardware store to get the right size. If you have a dremel or drill they have a round file that will save time.
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Thank you, Singer CLA! I thought that might be the problem. I'll see if I have the right kind of fitting for my Dremel tomorrow, and if not, I'll get over to the hardware store.
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