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Friar_Tuck

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I am bidding on this beast on an online auction after looking at it today. The bobbin winder parts are in the drawer, along with 2 extra bobbin carriers, a few bobbins (tiny little buggers) and several new needles. I have never seen one in person, but spun it over and everything turns smoothly. I checked for slop anywhere I could think of and it seems tight.
I am biased by its looks and my looking forward to some small leather projects.
Anything else I should consider?
Or your experiences with one?
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Jim

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Hi,  I'm no expert on these machines but have seriously considered one off an on and still do.  If I was to buy one I'd get the longer 18 inch arm and larger bobbin capable of v138 thread.  Although I like vintage this is one machine that worries me kind of like if I every buy a flat seamer (Union Special 36200 as I read they are a bear to get right and wear out).  I've read that max stitch length can begin to shorten after wear.  I'd also go one step farther and not buy until I can get it to stitch on a light leather you plan to use while paying attention to max stitch length.  It can be turned over by hand to do this of course.  Just my thoughts.  The expensive clone machines are like the Adler ones that are more capable with longer cylinder arm and bigger bobbin.  We recently bought our first China machine, a Cowboy cb-4500, and it is a real wiz bang of a machine capable of up to 7/8 inch veg tan leather and size 27 needle with 411 clone parts.  As much as I'd hate to buy another Chinese machine I'd probably do this on this machine if I bought one as I would only buy it for use and not for collection (very intermittent use).  I've also read stitch quality is not as good as to be expected on a compound feed machine but that is the price to be paid by a 360 swiveling head and top walking feet only with no needle feed or under feed.  When I'm on leatherworker.net many folks post their collection of machines and many have a similar machine, a Singer 111w or equivalent, and a heavy hitter like the Cowboy cb4500 (or similar juki 441 clone).  For lighter stuff the heavy hitter is never needed.  Just my thoughts after studying them.....some day likely one will be added to the herd here.  Many buy the sub 200 Chinese clones (even available on Amazon) but that would be one I'd avoid personally.   The nicer clones with 18 inch arm and large bobbin come with bearing type reducer, servo motor, and similar stand that is on our cb4500. Best regards, Mike
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I love mine.  I've done a bit of leather sewing -- but I did over do it one time, and broke the needle, which scarred the casting that the bobbin carrier rides in, and the scarring prevented it from sewing until I'd applied a lot of emery paper and JB Weld to smooth things out so the thread could pass under cleanly again.  So try not to break needles.  :-)  What I use mine for mostly is camping equipment, and luggage of various sorts.  It's really convenient with a bulky object like a backpack to be able to get it in position, then sew in various directions without rotating the backpack.

Mine is in good shape, and will sew about 5-1/2 stitches per inch.  As parts wear, it will get worse.  Apparently when it gets very bad you can apply some shims to make it good again.  

If it's all there, and you think you can clean it up, and the price is right, I'd say go for it.

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pgf - Have you ever adjusted the stitch length?
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You mean, using the adjustment on the presser foot bar to make them longer and shorter?  Yes, I have.

Oh -- I meant it will sew down to 5-1/2 spi.  It will also sew finer stitches than that.  When the internals wear, what you lose are the long stitches.  There are a couple of threads about this issue currently on the FB group "Singer 29K and other cobblers".  It seems you can repair the worn parts with brass shim stock.

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