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ke6cvh

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Hello group,

  Well we have a couple hand carved cases here.  I've attached pictures of the two.  One is complete, the lotus decal themed case, and has a 66k1 brown lotus decal that was shipped here from Estonia.  It was one of my first purchases.  The other is a 15k-30 from 1907 that doesn't even have  a motor boss on it and we have most of the case complete.  The top is pictured with the sphinx carving.  

  There is a gent in UK that has a 15k-80 for sale.  It was grandmother's machine and "mum" wants him to see if he can sell it.  He's going to look into listing it on Global Shipping for me.  What threw me is he stated it is from 1939 but when I look on ISMACS the "EO" serial numbers are not listed as in the picture here.  I like that sewing machine light that is coming off that motor! It has the original hand crank supplied with the auction. We are 230/60hz here and I know already the motor should run fine.  Likely the 15k-30 needs to be in a treadle anyways since it has no motor boss for a hand crank or motor.....unless someone has some type of hand crank I can put on this machine?  Anyone have insight on the EO serial numbers or the 15k80 manufacture date range?  Here is the auction and some pictures of cases made locally.  Best regards, Mike  https://www.ebay.com/itm/202674613961?ul_noapp=true
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My, oh, my, what beautiful tops.  

I'm fairly certain that what you are calling a 15k-30 is not.  Actually, according the catalogs from about that time period the models have either a K or a hyphen.  My guess is that it would probably be one of the models on https://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollections/Trade-Literature/Sewing-Machines/NMAHTEX/2753/imagepages/image28.htm  and the 15k30 is on https://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollections/Trade-Literature/Sewing-Machines/NMAHTEX/2753/imagepages/image30.htm  which states that it has wheel feed and roller presser for light leather.   

Thanks for the link to 15k80  the serial number is actually EC http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/serial-numbers/singer-ec-series-serial-numbers.html

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That case is beautiful! I see wood in the background.  Did you make it?
The machine isn't bad either.  The decals look perfect.  I think I can see the top of the hand crank boss in one picture.
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Absolutely beautiful box tops! Thanks for sharing.
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Hi Janey,  No.....I did not make them.  There was a guy who was living in a squatter area down by the port/pier that was doing it.  He was the go-to guy for an old wood working shop in the city (sons of the father who founded it back some time ago being one of the first wood working shops).  I was told he moved back to Manila to take care of his grand son in school.  There are other carvers in abundance in this country but this gent definitely has talent.  I have ID'd another one I'll give a try to see how his talent level is.  He lives in a shop that he doesn't own on the way to the kids school so It'll be easy if he works out to have lots of ability.  I want to get a top for a Wheeler and Wilson made based upon the carved accessory boxes (after buying one of the accessory boxes).  It cost me under 200 from beginning to end to get the lotus decal one done.  I have other pictures but a break down is that I got a stainless box made that has "ears" on it.  When the carved top is removed (same like what is seen on the accessory boxes for 201 cases with the bentwood top) then the stainless accessory tray comes out revealing a bottomless section to the base so a treadle belt can come up from below.  The one in the auction definitely has a hand crank/motor boss while mine does not (it came from USA) with the 1907 mfg. date.  Here is the link where I got the sub class 30 information from. http://needlebar.org/main/15chart/index.html  There is a better link that I re discovered about identification from lousy Craigslist photos here that I'll go from: http://vssmb.blogspot.com/2011/07/visual-guide-to-identifying-singers_28.html .  Thanks Janey for catching the "EC" vice "EO".  In my own self defense I was outside playing in the dirt with fire......in adult translation we were having a yard camping cookout in the dirt where we are building a 2nd carport but have not yet laid the concrete so it's dirt.  We took three pieces of cement and built a fire to toast marsh mellows and such.  I was using a patent 1892 cast iron waffle maker Wagner no 8 Sydney Australia and trying to make waffles on the fire.  So smoke in my eyes and in a hurry between emails and activities with the Mrs. along with 9 year old triplets and two nieces.  Best regards, Mike
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I know that it is generally true about the "K" vs, "-" just is where they are made, but there are some exceptions as noted about the 15-30 and 15K30. ISMACS gets it right at http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/model-list/classes-1-99.html

I'm still confused about some the 27, 28, 127, 128 when it comes to the various varieties (hand crank & treadle). I think they may have changed the varieties between the 27 and 127. It looks like in 1912 28-4 was the hand crank and the 27-4 was the treadle, but the 127-4 was hand crank. go figure???

The base that you built or had built so that the opening is exposed for the treadle belt, sounds really neat. Hopefully, you will post those pictures, sometime soon. Do you have the treadle frame for it? I gather you had to have an opening to be able to set the base in.

I understand about seeing EO instead of EC. When do something like that I blame it on "mature eyesight" and broken glasses.

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Hi Janey,

  Getting treadles here is a real bear so we end up making our own tables allot of the time.  Here is a picture of the first table we made for a 1940's Singer 112w-139.  That machine had a cracked bed so I got the cast iron welded at a shop that does repairs of cast iron engine block heads.  After cleaning the weld on the top of the bed (but leaving the bead below in tact for strength) then refinishing the bed nobody would ever know and it sews fine.  The piece for the servo also had to be made here.  Everything on this table made here (2 layers of 3/4 inch marine ply glued and screwed together, the stainless base, pedals, thread stand, angle iron around the 1.5 inch wood table top, Singer lettering) at the house.  We now have many many tables here that have been made or modified on some way.  I have also attached a picture of a treadle wheel we made that will be going on a stainless treadle we will make.  I had to turn the wheel into a machine shop to get the v-groove done and it to be trued/rounded on a lathe the last bit.  A bit of irony I put the letters of our last name into the wheel.  Sometimes I buy hardware from USA for making tables and sometimes we will take part of a commercial table and make it to suit our needs (actually lots of times).  I attached a picture of a Singer 201k-23 that is the Mrs. "go-to" machine for school uniforms and costumes for parties for the kids.  It has stainless pop up/locking leave hinges and white formica top but the base was a left over commercial base that was narrowed.  Several dozen commercial machines here so we're on the last stretch of extending the studio for just one of many projects.   Some of the pictures are loading upside down even after I attempted it more than once so you'll have to click on view then rotate.  I included a mod we did for a table setup on a Union Special 51800 differential feed waist band machine (we have two of them but one still needs the table to be worked on slightly).  OK, on a roll included our 3rd waistband machine, a Singer 302w201 where we mounted it sideways on a top that has an underneath that uses fold out sections to convert from dog kennel to storage area.  The servo for that 302w201 sits under the thread stand and we since added thread cone caps for even feed and a zippered clear covering for the thread Here is our Juki lk1900bhs where we mounted on a different section of table with same setup underneath it.  In this case we made our own bell crank and used a motorcycle cable (2 dollars in the city) and turned the electronics module upside down.....the foot pedal sits on the floor and can move around if the bottom section is for dog or storage.   Since there has been lots of recent focus on 1800's machines we will be making a row of specialized installations of Singer no 2's (we will have two of them on line), Grover and Baker no 1 improved lock stitch (we will have two on line eventually after making new parts for them), Wheeler Wilson no 7 (we will eventually have three on line), no 12 (one hopefully two on line), Grover and Baker no 20 long bed portable chain stitch, some no 8's (2 hand crank one treadle)/d9 W&W, and some other treadles like a Weed G. F..  We want to offer a period authentic pants based upon actual Victorian era machines that could have been used to make them.  Sorry if the email is in a hurry but I'm managing workers, 2 of the 3 triplets are eating and interacting on who's turn it is on the PS4, and many projects 😉  Some day I'll finish the table for the White FR in the tree house and start using the 12 shaft, dual warp beam, countermarch hand loom (picture of that also...overhead beater with flying shuttle is a Leclerc but everything else we made and a warp drum included picture also. Included a picture of the tree house with still minor ongoing details but 2nd floor is studio apartment with plans of White FR going on balcony (other end of balcony is a kitchenette) so one may be able to free motion embroidery or other projects while watching the pool with kids or other outside stuff.  There is a picture of the back of the house from 5 Sep showing some of our 250 solar panels to get our industrial single phase.  I already sent a picture of the non critical power panel in another post as well as likely a couple of these pics.  Maybe in the future I'll build a folder with more organized pictures.  Best regards, Mike


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Best regards,
Mike
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