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These are the photos that my mom took of the convertible 101.  
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Sorry about the duplicate and sideways pictures I'll clean these up once I met a computer.
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*puts metal "Singerlight" cover on parts list to find. From what I can see it's just the cover
and those are the same metal cover from same era model 66s.

Looks super Steve. Very nice decals... and the decals are always something I double check
since some 101 machines sometimes had different decals from front to back.

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My 101 needs a light shade also.  I have a 66 light, and I thought the shade looked the same. But, I haven't been able to get the shade off the 66 light, it won't even twist. Guess I'm going to have to give it another go and see if I can loosen the shade.
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That machine will clean up beautifully - and has my favorite presser foot!  Since it's convertible, is it aluminum?

This will be a fun project for you.
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I have a convertible 101, also.  It isn't pretty like yours, and I never tried to use it due to the scary wiring. Mine has all the plugs under the machine, not on the surface like yours, so I thought I would attach some photos to show the different approach. I bought it because of the cool table, thinking I would put another machine in it.

Kelly in PA
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That looks like some form of retrofit or repair to me. Is there a hole in the front of the "portable" portion of the base?  This looks like it was converted to use a foot pedal.  if there was a hole for the knee drive that would be a big clue.

This is very cool.

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Fabulous machines and tables.  Love these.
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I have to agree with Steve. Those plugs aren't right. That's one of those 'motor' 'light' Mercury switch boxes. Interesting rewire, but the original Singer plugs are the metal tube ends and they should plug into the outlets under the metal door above the tilt lock tab. Under that cover should be two outlet like plugs. Now, it's certainly an ingenious re-wire, nicely hidden as well, but not what Singer did originally.

Wait. Someone else from Pennsylvanistan? We should talk, lol. Put another machine in there and you'll need a home for that pre-26 101 head. Like maybe someone with a cabinet for one and no machine, LOL

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OK, so I guess here is where I have to confess that the machine is behind two parlor cabinets and I can't get to it very well. I was able to tip the machine back and there is not a hole for a knee bar. There is a little drilled hole on the left side, not sure what the purpose of that is. I could not lift the portable base out - it seems to get stuck in the area around the wires, but I can't look underneath to see what is going on. The little compartment under the hand wheel holds bobbins. The lid has brackets that I think are for holding a foot pedal.

Does anybody happen to know if the 101 has the same footprint of the 15, 66, 201, etc?

Jim, yes I am in NE PA. You are out west around Pgh?

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Does anybody happen to know if the 101 has the same footprint of the 15, 66, 201, etc?

Jim, yes I am in NE PA. You are out west around Pgh?



Ah, the NE, I have a very good VSM friend in Bradford. If you're looking for anything, lemme know.
Yep I'm down here in da south of Pennsyltucky.

The 15, 66, 101, and 201 all have the same footprint.

Thank you so very much for the photos. Those are great!

This where I'm at a loss. I have not personally seen enough of the 101s in a 301 combo to know. I would have expected a 1922 101 machine to have the built in controller (inside that box on back of the lower body) which would have eliminated the controller wire since the controller would then be moved by the rod assembly - which is what happens in the type 40 table. The portables are different and I'd have to differ to Andrew who I believe has a couple of portables built before 1926 and the wiring/casting change.  Sure would be super to get to the bottom of this!

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Hi Kelly

I do have two portable 101s from that era, but only the 1923 looks to be completely original in its bentwood case, the sort that is placed in your combo table. I think the serial number on yours makes it a 1922 so it should be fairly comparable. I was given this 101 last year by the original owner's great-grandaughter so I know its entire history. It came to said great-grandmother as a wedding gift in 1924 and was never used after her death in the early 70s, although carefully kept in a bedroom closet. It has all its original wiring and runs beautifully.

As Jim said, the motor controller is housed in the back lower body of the machine with the rod assembly on the inside right (as you look in from the front) of the case. This is activated by an early (round) knee lever fed through a hole in the front of the case. There is an oval hole on the back of the case to access the two pin plug inside. My other portable 101 (1924) was also at some point updated with a Mercury universal type set up with a foot controller. It's currently in a ratty 1950s case and the cavity which would have housed the original motor controller is empty. I'm just about to put it back into a bentwood case with a knee lever, albeit a later design than it originally would have had.

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Andrew, with your photo showing where the knee lever goes, I looked at my original photos from the day I brought it home and found one that shows what is probably the knee lever hole. I did not expect it to be in that corner block, and I can't get at an angle to see it right now. 

I wonder why they converted to a foot pedal. I find knee levers to be much more comfortable for sewing.

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Hi Kelly

Glad the photo helped. I, too, am a big fan of knee levers over foot controllers.

Here is a 'before' picture of my other portable 101 -- the 1924 which was also at some time converted to the foot controller thing, plus the bentwood I'm about to put it into. There will have to be some fancy footwork as this bentwood base would have connected the motor controller to a three pin connector on the rear mounted motor of a later Singer. Since the 101 has an internal motor and thus no motor mount boss on the column I'm going to be a bit creative 😊

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Andrew - You have a beautiful original case on your 1923 model and what a special machine and story attached!
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UPDATE: I had my mom check and mine is an Aluminium machine!!  And it turns but with resistance so she stopped (love you Mom). She said "probably just needs oil, but I'm not plugging it in..."
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You got the right one Steve. Can't wait for you to get you hands on it and tell us all about it. Just fabulous!
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Congratulations!, Steve!
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My Mom got a chance to take some pics of the sewing machine "gizmos"

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I can't tell for sure, but it looks like there might be that neat darning foot, on top of the seam guide in the second picture.

Nice lot of "goodies."

Janey

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That is what it looks like to me as well
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There are several 'extras' in the photos, which is always a plus!

The 'stock' attachment box 120315 included the following Simanco stamped pieces:

120290 Ruffler
287b Cloth Guide Thumb Screw
25527 Seam Guide
25538 Small Screwdriver
25537 Screwdriver
35931 Adjustable Hemmer
36583 Tucker
36954 Binder Foot
66649 bobbin carrier
66628 Darning Plate
*and 5 class 66 bobbins.

I'd say everything appears accounted for except perhaps the screwdrivers, which may be the easiest to find.
Do double check that you have the Simanco 66566 presser foot, which has been noted to be the correct foot and the one that works the best.
The green Singer box in the photo appears to be the best looking one I've seen, if the end is indeed stamped 120315. I don't know for ceratin
if the portables had a different attachment box, I'm assuming there was only just the one, so I could be wrong.
Ha. And there's the lamp cover - sweet!

*wanders off to check area 3*

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Jim,

Thank you for that.  I will ask this Saturday for the SIMANCO # and the box number

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My mom wants to remove the "portable" portion, but it does not seem to want to come out.  Is there a latch?  (sorry, too swamped at work to research now)
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My mom wants to remove the "portable" portion, but it does not seem to want to come out.  Is there a latch?  (sorry, too swamped at work to research now)


With the disclaimer that I do not have one of these in front of me...

two things come to mind from looking at Kelly's photos. One is that there doesn't seem to be a dial or lock to keep the machine from tilting back as you would see on so many other portables. The only way I see of lifting it out is to place the lid on and lock it and pull up. That being said there is something I don't understand.

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The red arrow above points to the plunger that is in the body of the 101. This moves the controller arm to vary the speed of the machine in the cast box on the back of the body - but only in those machines with A:the controller box built into the casting, and B: a controller in that box.

To be able to move that plunger... another rod like arm moves against it, and in this case probably a rod assembly that turns with the plug-in knee lever and located under the machine inside the portable box bottom. 

Looking at Kelly's knee levers, it looks like they must connect to a different rod linkage underneath that traverses the width of the table from where you plug in the lever and where the base of the machine is located... then somewhere underneath there has to be a release to pull that rod forward and back to free the base for travel. I would suspect something is hanging up there at that connection.

I would check just under the cabinet where the knee lever plugs in. I'd bet there's some sort of linkage that has to be drawn toward you to free the connection at the portable base.

Mom may need a flash light and a garage creeper. [smile]

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Maybe that makes more sense than my trying to explain it. Bet that red linkage has to disengage?



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Thank you!
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