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Box 1 part- now I will have to dig out my attachments for my 66-1. My other treadle is actually a back clamper, and I have attachments, so I will move that one over there.



Here is my set for the 66-1. Obviously the box is not right. I ‘may’ need to put Bag 3 in it! Looks like I also have a belt shifter and a feed dog cover. She is not in a cabinet. I’m thinking of making her a hand crank. I also have an original manual, which I carefully placed in a protective bag.

And last, a vintage, not antique, Singer buttonholer with only three of the cams.

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The 66-1 boxes are hard to come by.  They were all cardboard and didn't withstand the test of time well at all.  So just find something nice to put them in and go with it 😉

Looks like you have a few duplicates there, along with the belt shifter and the darning plate/feed dog cover.  Did you know there were 2 darning plates?  You would hardly notice the difference.  One has a flatter top and the other is more oval.  Otherwise, they're exactly the same.  I'd have to check the parts list to see what the different use is for the two, lol. 

That buttonholer is fine, but the green case buttonholers are all metal and will last longer than the newer one that you have.  I do have a number of those here if you'd like one, complete with all the cams.  But, like I said, the buttonholer you have will probably work as long as you need it to work.  I've got extra cams if you want them.  I'd need to check what plastic ones I have.  I know I have lots of the metal ones.

Rose-Marie, I'm not sure where to find the bobbins you need and I'm not sure the people you need to reach are watching this thread.  If I were you, I'd post a new thread or post in the Wanted section and you'll probably get some replies.  Sorry I can't help.

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Ericka-

I’m not worried about a 66-1 box. I have those parts in a vintage wicker sewing basket anyway. You can see the top tray in the one photo.
Those actually are not duplicates, just one photo with the metal box and one without. I think I bought the plate from eBay and it shipped from Greece!

The buttonholer was another inherited item, undoubtedly for a newer machine. Obviously it won’t work at all on my 66. But since I do have other machines, I’d entertain options on what you’re offering on the buttonholer stuff. Thank you.


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Crazy week. Let's see if I can pick up where I left off...

Box 7, black, says "Attachments" across the front:

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Box 8:

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10 is a well preserved cardboard:

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Jim, I expect you know what most of the things are in your numbered pics, so I'll just point out things that are out of place or I don't recognize.

Box 7 is like the Singer Style 14 tin for the 27 and 28 machines.  One of my Singer manuals and/or box says also 15 machines, but then it would have different shirring and underbraider plates.  Your plates are for the 27/28.  I've seen these boxes with the Singer stamp on the top and with Greist attachments in them.  In fact, there are Singer manuals that show a Greist tucker and maybe even ruffler in the layout pic.  Others stamped Singer have all Singer attachments in them.  Then there are the tins like yours that are just stamped ATTACHMENTS and have all Greist attachments.  I've also seen tins that only have the little gold filigree doodle thing around the edge of the top and nothing stamped on it.  Let me know if you need a copy of the manual or just the layout page.

Box 8 - Not sure what it fits, but the screwdriver (#13) is similar to a Davis.  Haven't seen a screwdriver like that one before, though, so don't know if this might be a badged Davis that changed the screwdriver just a tad or if that's no clue at all.

Box 10 (what happened to Box 9?) - Again, not sure what it fits, but I've seen wrench #8 before.  And the part #10 is a tiny little extra shirring piece that slips onto the back of a ruffler.  But it looks like the ruffler in your pic might already have one on it.  Can't tell for sure.

Box 11 - Again, don't know what this set fits, but you've got a couple in there that don't belong.  You've got a side-clamping tucker in part #12 and I'm not sure if the other extra part is numbered or not.  It's just below the #11 and above the Box 11 title in your pic.  That's a hemmer that fits into a special attachment foot.  Those feet were made for both the side-clamping 27 and the back-clamping 66.  Since you've got a side-clamping tucker in here, my guess is they were both originally with the 27 set.

Box 12 - This is a set that Greist made that had an attachment foot you put on your machine and then you could swap the attachments between machines if you put an attachment foot on each of your machines.  They came in low shank versions, which is what you have, and high shank, super high shank for the Kenmores and slant shanks for those Singers.  There were at least 2 different types of these sets made - one for straight stitch machines and the second for zigzag machines.  The SS set had an attachment foot like yours that has a spring you pull to attach the feet and the needle hole is definitely made for a SS machine.  The ZZ set has an attachment foot that has a screw-type setup to attach the feet and the needle hole is wider to accommodate any zigzagging you might do with the feet on.  And the intent was to just leave that attachment foot on the machine as your regular presser foot.  Greist has a manual that was included with all these sets that would've been titled something like "How to Use Your Attachments" or something like that.  They're really common.  The attachments for the two sets don't really interchange as you might find because if you look closely, some of your feet have a sort of rounded bump where you slip it onto the attachment foot and then slide it into place.  There are some others there that have a more squared area where you slip it onto the attachment foot and then slide it into place.  I suspect that only a few of your feet will fit on that attachment foot.  I've got about a bajillion of these pieces if you want a complete set.

Aaand I think that's it.
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Oh, and what's #5 in Box 11?  Forgot about that and I don't recognize it.
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I'm still looking for Box #9. I think it slipped away in the night. I'll find a replacement. =)

#5 in box 11? Wow. I do not know. Doesn't it look like it should be there at all. I'll give it a go over and see if there's any identifying marks!

Will be on to the loose bits soon. Not very many!

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Yeah, if you're like me, another one will show up before you know it and after a while, you'll go "Where the heck did that come from?"  If I don't put something in them right when they show up, I have a hard time remembering what pile they came in with.  Unless, of course, they were well-marked and were what I was after to begin with [wink]

Yeah, #5 looks like one of those things that accidentally got tossed into the sewing machine drawer for whatever reason.  I just got some colored lens covers in with a pile, at least I'm pretty sure that's what they are.  I mean, what's that doing in with sewing attachments???  I have a special tin for those kinds of things I can't ID, just in case I later find out they were something really rare.  That rarely happens [wink]

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Okay, I took the 66 stuff out of that metal Greist box and put Bag three in it. It’s obviously not for a Standard, but I got them in there. The holders on the bars don’t have the right spacing and are tighter than in the other (correct) box, but I’m happy with it.

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I have my box 7 with the 27s. They'll have to share. =)
Will take a peek today if the New Home will fit my New Home... and then the Domestic's turn.

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Just saw this being advertised and as I was going clockwise from the top, I was like, okay. okay, know that, wait... rollers? Wha?
(furthest right on the bottom, what is that?)


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Just saw this being advertised and as I was going clockwise from the top, I was like, okay. okay, know that, wait... rollers? Wha?
(furthest right on the bottom, what is that?)

It's a roller foot!  It's really helpful if you don't want to break out the walking foot for something that needs just a little help to feed between the foot and the feed dogs.  The rollers help to keep the fabric moving instead of the fabric having to deal with a bit of drag from a regular presser foot.  Really helpful foot.  I've got one (or more, lol) for the low-shank machines, slant-shanks and high-shanks.

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Okay, I took the 66 stuff out of that metal Greist box and put Bag three in it. It’s obviously not for a Standard, but I got them in there. The holders on the bars don’t have the right spacing and are tighter than in the other (correct) box, but I’m happy with it.


Looks great, Naomi.  At least that tin is getting put to good use until you end up with one that has that slot in the bottom bar for the tucker 😉  You know one will eventually come to you, especially now that you've got everything put away so nicely in that tin, lol!

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I’ve seen those roller feet before but don’t have one. I do have a low shank walking foot that fits my Elna.
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Yes I’m happy they are in a tin now even if not the right one. So undignified to be in plastic baggies! I have these three tins in my spare set of correct cabinet drawers, so they are double happy.

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Estate sale this weekend shows an old Singer 6-drawer w/removable top and this puzzle box:

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Anything odd leaping out there? (I ask because I don't know any better =)


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Holy crap, you have a Peerless or Sackett single-thread embroidery attachment in there, and looks like you even have the thread spool holder in there - that's really unusual.  Those embroidery attachments are really The Peerless Embroidery Attachment manufactured by the Sackett Mfg Co.  But sometimes they're stamped Peerless and other times they're stamped Sackett - who knows what happened back in the day.  Also, some of them have a VS2 stamp on them and others don't.  I've got various ones with various stamps on them. 

I don't see a latch on the top of the picture, so this looks like a Style 3 box and it should have a clasp on the outer side corner.  I see your attachment foot doesn't have the screw in it, but there's a screw that's right above the  hemmer bar that belongs either in the back of that foot or in the tucker - can't see if the tucker has all its screws or not, I think so.  I think I see the braiding foot is in there, too.  Looks like what you're missing is the underbraider, screwdrivers/stiletto and maybe the screw for the seam guide.  Can't really be sure with everything kinda in a pile there 😉

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Ericka, I had a 'feeling' that something here was off. Just didn't look right. So this would be well worth chasing after. I'll check the forecast for Saturday because I'll need to be in line about an hour or two early (5am). Any thoughts on what's a fair price for 'just a puzzle box of stuff' which is how they'll look at it.
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Oh, boy.  Estate sale companies have such different ranges on how they value things.  I remember seeing a crappy puzzle box that was extremely incomplete that was priced waaaay too high and they didn't want to consider any offers that day, so don't know if it ever sold or not.  Then there was another estate sale where I found my first puzzle box and it was only $5.  I've also been to estate sales where they thought a featherweight was a toy and had it priced at $35! 

What I can tell you is that those embroidery attachments can sell for $200 on eBay and they're much easier to thread and use than the Singer single-thread embroidery attachment.  And, since the puzzle box looks fairly complete, I would think anywhere between $20-50 should be the price from an estate sale company for a puzzle box of stuff that they don't know what's in there.

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Thanks. I know it's guess work, but there's that ratio floating around in my head of is it worth my time and how much cash if it's valued at x. If that was the Singer embroidery attachment (single or double spool) completely different story and the ratio is way different. So at least I have a heads up and unless something more amazing than that comes along... I'll be right there. =) Besides, I don't think any of attachments look that nice, lol.

I have driven to estate sales that had a Singer treadle for the singular purpose of looking through the drawers. One of those 'you can't win if you're not there' sort of things. So I have to go check.

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You know, the attachments don't look bad to me.  No rust that I'm seeing, just grunge, so one trip through the sonic cleaner and they would probably look good.  But I'm not seeing them in person, either.  And I don't know what the outside of the box looks like.  I usually clean the outside with just a paper towel with a tiny bit of rubbing alcohol on it and stay away from the patent stamp to be sure it definitely doesn't get exposed and the stamp gets fuzzy.  The rubbing alcohol will definitely take off all the grime that has accumulated on the box and only remove just a tiny bit of shellac, from my experience.  I've never had a problem doing this, but I'm very careful and don't use very much.  And, of course, put some nice furniture polish on after that.  Unless the box is super scratched up or the shellac is really worn, they usually look great after that.  I've only ever had one box that I actually had to sand down and re-shellac and that's because I was keeping the cherry wood box.  The brown velvet has never been a favorite of mine, but it looks like it's in pretty good condition.  And a Style 3 box should be worth more than a Style 11, but so many people don't really know the difference, so if you're looking to re-sell, it might take a bit longer to get a good price.

And if the Singer attachment was in there without a box, it might not be worth that much more than this attachment.  The single-thread Singer is prone to having its U-shaped tension spring broken and then the price goes down.  The 2-thread Singer that I found in a puzzle box one time didn't have the thread spool holder and I finally sold it for about $300, I think.  The fact that they wouldn't have their boxes, instruction sheets, etc, brings the value down a fair amount.  I hear ya on the ratio thing, too.  I've got to watch that myself because I'm getting waaay too much stuff around here from trying to figure out all these top-clamping attachments and everything else.  I really need to do an eBay purge.
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Yes it got here today! Thank you. Perfect packing.

I have one more lonely odd bobbin out. I think it may be a New Home. It’s not pristine on the bottom, and a little wonky on the lips, if you can tell from the last photo.

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Ah, glad everything made it okay.  Lots of tape involved with that packing job, lol. 

I don't think I'm going to be any help with the bobbins.  I just haven't had as much experience with those odd ones.  I was thinking that someone had some specs put together for bobbins, but can't picture where it might be.  I know I have a PDF document that was originally from Sew-Classic, but that just covers your run-of-the-mill vintage bobbins, most of which are still in use today.  I'm not really sure where to point you for info on less common bobbins.  Hopefully, somebody will chime in here.

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Ebay 07.jpg  Peerless B - lower half - front.jpg  Peerless B - upper half - front.jpg 

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Oooh, lucky you, having an original box and instructions.  I think almost every one I've gotten has come in a puzzle box, so nothing more than the attachment and maybe the spool thread holder.  But I did pull this off the Smithsonian site (I think).  Of course, this is for the 2-thread attachment, which I've never seen.  But it's patent # is 300644 if you want to look that up.
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Wow nice. You can just imagine some sweet lady lovingly making rosebuds on her linens.

Ericka, I have macybaby's photo log, and the measurement charts for the bobbins, so not worried about the ID. Just showing her off in case someone needed one. Some of those get to be slim pickings. For now, she's in the oddments drawer. Ha, can you imagine someone someday finding it and wondering "what's THAT doing in here?"

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... Then there are the tins like yours that are just stamped ATTACHMENTS and have all Greist attachments.  I've also seen tins that only have the little gold filigree doodle thing around the edge of the top and nothing stamped on it.  ...


As usual, I was looking for something else, and found images of various Griest tins on page 3 of the April 10, 1900 edition of the "Sewing Machine Times

For some reason none of the links I thought I had gotten seem to work.  Maybe can get to from https://digital.hagley.org/sewingmachinetimes?page=7

I don't know if you've seen these, unfortunately, it doesn't say which machines they belong to.

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Yes, I've seen parts catalogs with these exact sets for sale "for any make of machine" or something like that.  Here's a pic from the Boye Guide that I have, so these sets were made for probably any and all makes of machines back in the day...

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Ericka, so how did that work? You told them what machine you have and they sent the one with the right attachment mechanism? There were soooo many different kinds of foot attachments back then. The one on the ruffler in your image is really fancy!

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Yep, if you knew the make and model, you would order it that way.  Or if your local shop that carried these things knew, they could help to order it.  But a lot of places were just too rural to have a knowledgeable shop nearby.  I've seen other ads where the companies say to send in a foot if you weren't sure and they would send you the right foot or attachment set and also return your foot!  I might've been more trusting of those companies back then than I would be today to take what might be my only presser foot off and mail it in and trust them to return it, lol. 

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