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This is singing an alluring siren song. Any reason I should try harder to resist? They're asking $75.

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The bugs kinda creep me out, but I wouldn't let that stop me.  Looks like it is in excellent condition.  
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I rather adore the scarabs. It's so perfect I almost wonder if someone redid it. I'm going to see it tomorrow after work.

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If someone did restore it, they did a really nice job.  Hope you come home with it!! 
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That is a beautiful machine and cabinet.

If memory serves me correctly, unless it has been modified, it takes a unique needle. It looks like it may have a manual and some accessories, so maybe some needles. I'm not sure that would make a difference for you. The Franklin that I worked on for a coworker had been modified so that it took regular needles.

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GRAB IT , grab it, grab it!!!!!!!!!!    I have the same machine in the same cabinet and it's not in as good of condition as that one.   I paid much more than the $75.00.

The machine is a Singer 27 copy.   Uses the same shuttle, bobbins and needles.   It was made in the 1910's by the Domestic Sewing Machine Co. of Buffalo New York and sold by Sears, Roebuck & Co. 

You should be bragging about what you got instead of asking if you should get it.

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I confess, the sight of the manual in the door made my heart skip a beat. I don't have one for any of my really old machines.

Heck, when I opened the email with the pictures of the head, my whole body skipped a beat. I was ready to grab my car keys and go!

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Angela ...... GO, GO,GO, GO .......

Yeah I know, I'm no help at all.  [smile]

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I'll agree with Joe- if that  speaks to you,  that is a great price!   I have a couple of Franklins in parlor cabinets,  but not that fancy.  they are nice machines.

I don't mind a refinish job,  as long as it does not have coat of high gloss poly on it.  

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I have one like this, upon which I sewed an entire quilt, enjoying every stitch.  The greens in the decals are almost iridescent.   From Wikipedia.....

In ancient Egyptian religion, the sun god Ra is seen to roll across the sky each day, transforming bodies and souls. Beetles of the Scarabaeidae family (dung beetle) roll dung into a ball as food and as a brood chamber in which to lay eggs; this way, the larvae hatch and are immediately surrounded by food. For these reasons the scarab was seen as a symbol of this heavenly cycle and of the idea of rebirth or regeneration. The Egyptian god Khepri, Ra as the rising sun, was often depicted as a scarab beetle or as a scarab beetle-headed man. The ancient Egyptians believed that Khepri renewed the sun every day before rolling it above the horizon, then carried it through the other world after sunset, only to renew it, again, the next day. A golden scarab of Nefertiti was discovered in the Uluburun wreck

So, in the decal, the scarab holds the sun with its front feet, and the earth ( a ball of dung) with its back feet.
     Make sure that the front door is open all of the way to support the weight of the top board when it is turned out.
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I'd buy it for that price, in a heartbeat!
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Great info! Thanks!

I made a big mistake with the last sewing machine that I bought, and since I had the time (thanks to the seller's schedule), I thought I would ask about this one first. You folks know so much about these old machines, it's a little intimidating! But a fabulous resource that I'm thankful to have, just the same. :-)

I'm also not a fan of refinished machines, depending on the year. Mid-century doesn't bother me nearly as much as one this age. I don't think it's been redone, but I'll confirm that tonight.

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Angela, I don't quite know what you mean by "redone".  The cabinet may have been refinished, but that is not bad.  The head is all original, as one can't just go out and buy a set of decals like that.  The price is very reasonable.  The machines were engineered to last forever, something that I can't say about the machines that came after mid-century, when manufacturing turned to plastic and stamped metal parts.  After a half century, that early plastic tends to bio-degrade.  Yes, it is a long bobbin, vibrating shuttle machine, but they are almost bullet proof in operation.
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Angela, I don't quite know what you mean by "redone".  The cabinet may have been refinished, but that is not bad.  The head is all original, as one can't just go out and buy a set of decals like that.  The price is very reasonable.  The machines were engineered to last forever, something that I can't say about the machines that came after mid-century, when manufacturing turned to plastic and stamped metal parts.  After a half century, that early plastic tends to bio-degrade.  Yes, it is a long bobbin, vibrating shuttle machine, but they are almost bullet proof in operation.
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With the availability of new decal sets for Singers and other machines, I've been seeing more heads that look brand new, because the owner stripped, painted, and applied new decals. This one is SO clean that it made me wonder if this was one of those refurbished/refinished/redone/etc machines. I have a modest collection of machines, almost all of which have shuttles, and I like them original. Wrinkles and all!

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It's a beauty.  I hop you get it.
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Thanks, Rodney!
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I think 75$ is quite a good price. 
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I think 75$ is quite a good price. 


I agree. The funny thing about machines here is that they're either extremely reasonable, or outrageous. Like, $250+ for an ordinary vintage or antique machine. The outrageous is far more common.

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She's mine. All mine. 😁

It has a full accessories box in the door, plus a pristine puzzle box and manual. Based on the weight, the cabinet has to be solid oak.

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Great news!
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woohoo! Congrats!!  I'm sure you'll be happy with it, it's a beauty!
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Congratulations! What a nice find, especially with the additional goodies.
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Great, Angela, give her a good oiling and she will almost sew by her self !
Congratulations.
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Thank you!!
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Glad you got it. I'm curious about needle size. Joe said his took regular needles and the one I worked on did, too. The needle references I saw when I was working on coworker's said Franklin took a 20x1. Maybe it was for a different model Franklin's that took that size and they changed for it to use 15x1 needles.

I'd like to see pictures of your puzzle box and accessories.

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I'll post pictures once I get it home on Friday. I have to go back with my nineteen year old son and my beau to heft it into my SUV.
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Angela,

Just a tip,  pull the head out of the cabinet first.    The cabinet weighs a bunch as it is, pulling the head out will make it easier to handle.

I found this out when we moved mine.    I didn't have any tools with me when I picked it up, so we had to move it complete with head.   Once home we pulled the head out to get it in the house, big difference.

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Thanks, Joe. :-)

I always pull the heads out for fear of damaging the cabinet during transport. Those old sewing machine screwdrivers are remarkably handy for carrying around in my purse.


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Did you get it home yet?
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Yep! So pretty! Along with a pink Necchi Supernova Ultra in a fabulous Necchi desk/cabinet for $50. I have no self-control, apparently. I'm officially out of room though, so no more cabinets.

I will be selling my Minnesota K with its parlor cabinet, and hopefully the Davis or White in their bentwood boxes. We'll see how much I accomplish toward their rehab this weekend. I'm also debating selling my pretty 1960 teal White that's currently in a solid Martha Washington cabinet. It's so clean though!

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Yep! So pretty! Along with a pink Necchi Supernova Ultra in a fabulous Necchi desk/cabinet for $50. I have no self-control, apparently. I'm officially out of room though, so no more cabinets. I will be selling my Minnesota K with its parlor cabinet, and hopefully the Davis or White in their bentwood boxes. We'll see how much I accomplish toward their rehab this weekend. I'm also debating selling my pretty 1960 teal White that's currently in a solid Martha Washington cabinet. It's so clean though!


Davis in bentwood box????  Pics please!! [smile]
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Davis in bentwood box????  Pics please!! [smile]


I believe it's actually manufactured by National.

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I believe it's actually manufactured by National.


Yep, but thanks for showing pics anyway!  Can't ever see too many sm.  [smile] 
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Angela, I hope you bought this for the $75.  I bought one just like this because the cabinet was so beautiful.    I paid too much, but I'm not sorry.  I love the auto lift. 😉
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The auto lift-How do you get it to go back down? I have a similar machine that I am passing on and I brought it up and now I can't get it to go back down! The person I am passing it on to wants me to take the machine out for transport. I'm afraid it is more complicated than my others that I just take out 2 screws in the back. Any help would be appreciated.
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Mine didn't have an auto lift, so I'm afraid I can't help. I suspect the mechanism needs lubrication. They get so gummed up from sitting around unused.
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I got it closed by just closing the lid!  I had found picture of a similar one in case you're interested.

 
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I've been gifted this exact same machine also in a parlor cabinet.  It's all there - attachments, manual, etc.  The condition of the machine and cabinet are excellent.

I love the decals but since I have a Singer 127 on my project list - is there any appreciable difference with this machine compared to the 127?  The quality looks to me at least as good but since I have never sewn on either any comments would be helpful to me.  I could squeeze the parlor cabinet in some where - I just don't know if having both of these machines (as tools that is) is overkill.  What would you choose if you could just have one of these?  Is it a toss up?  On looks alone, I favor the Franklin scarab decals vs my 127 Sphinx.
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I'm not a huge Singer fan, especially regarding the Sphinx. It's just so common, and unappealing to my eye. If it's in fabulous shape, keep the Franklin. But if you can, keep both!
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Thanks, Angela.  Yeah - the Singer 127 Sphinx's are common and I got mine only to have this model - not too fussy about the decals since I don't use my machines for display and the price and basic condition was right.  The Franklin though is a looker and it would be fun to sew with all those scarabs!  Maybe I should just plan to keep both since they both have Egyptian motifs they kind of go together.
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That was my thought.  Keep both. I don't have a scarab yet but love the design.
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As an update, I finally have this machine and cabinet - a very special gift from my brother.  So, this will likely be my next project, aside from sewing and actually using my machines.

I'm finishing up my Sphinx redo and lessons learned from that work will be applied here.  This machine is in much better shape - it is all moving easy, no rust, and shellac is in good shape.  I am hoping I can use the cabinet to interchange the Scarab with the Sphinx - this will allow me to use both and have an Egyptian themed sewing section!  The cabinet is great for me - takes up little room and I love the lift mechanism.

I find it interesting that there is no bobbin winding tire and use of the treadle belt to run the mechanism.

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It's a beautiful machine and cabinet. I'm glad you're making progress! Lord knows I've made next to none in the past year, between moving three times and life in general.
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Thanks, Angela. I'm not sure I'm making progress as I feel I'm just getting deeper with more projects - and I'm very slow and then there is life in general as you've said.  I'm trying to curb new items on my list but this was a gift and I think it deserves some attention and I will definitely use the machine for sewing.  I love the wood grain on the cabinet and as I'm looking at it I have some ideas on what I'd like to do to restore it along with toning down the orange tones but likely I won't get to it for quite a while.
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