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A used-furniture buyer/seller friend has found this machine with what to my untrained eyes looks like a cast base you would set a Model 12 or some other fiddleback machine on. I haven't had an opportunity to see it in person yet, but it looks like a Singer medallion, and the arm is shaped like a Model 12, but I haven't been able to find an example of that bobbin winder and the geared handwheel. What little I could make out of the decals looks like it could be Painted Daisys. 

Does anyone recognize the model, and would Singer have offered a base like this one has?


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I tend to think of that style bobbin winder as coming on German copies of the model 12 -- especially in combination with that Saxonia-style crank.  I don't think it's a Singer.
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Thanks for your observation. 

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BTW -- I'd buy that machine in a heartbeat, if the price was reasonable.
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Yes, I’m waiting to hear what she’s willing to let it go for (my wife has already found a place for it in her sewing room).
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As already mentioned, that is not a Singer but a german-made Saxony-style sewing machine. There were lots of makers back then. Several of the middle-german or eastern german based makers tend to use those floral decals. A close-up of the brass medal would be nice. 
Good luck. 

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While anxiously waiting to hear if my used furniture friend has even acquired the machine, much less what she would let it go for, it has been a treat to be introduced to the realm of Salonica/German machines, and names like Dietrich, Vesta, Winselmann, Clemons Muller. The open-cut gears on the handwheel certainly are a clue as to the origin of this machine. I really appreciate the knowledge you’ve shared.

To this point, I‘ve been very content sticking with the archetypical black Singer iron machines (although I do have an aluminum 101, and just recently acquired a 301A). And, my oldest is just an 1898 28K. if I get this machine, it could reorient my sewing machine interest, a very scary proposition, as I am already out of space. 

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My wife had already made a place in her sewing room before I even looked at this machine. It's a German Clemons Müller, but the bobbin plate is also marked "KORFF HONSBERG y C la UNIDOS AGENTES MEXICO". The cosmetic condition of the machine is obvious from the photos, but the mechanical condition was surprising. No rust or binding of any moving parts. A little oil here and there and everything moves. The spring-loaded porcelain knob on the hand wheel even still folds out of the way, and the bobbin winder has a spring arrangement to move it's gear away from the handwheel when the bobbin gets filled.

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I just came across a reference to "Korff, Honsberg y Cía" an import company specializing in hardware was established in 1901. The reference stated that, "When Mexico City’s chamber of commerce was established in 1908, a number of German entrepreneurs, including R. Boker, A. Diener, Felix, and Honsberg were involved." So, I wonder if this machine was actually manufactured in Mexico, or maybe manufactured in Dresden, and then imported and sold by Honsberg, or ??



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What a great find!
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Ooooo nice one!  Love the German machines and especially paw feet & fiddlebeds!  Great addition to your herd!
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