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I'll be traveling to the cold north (Minneapolis) for about a month to give help to my brother.
Although, winter snow and cold will be a big change for me, I'm excited to be again in ice and lake country!

Very fortunate for me, my brother has picked up a Necchi BU for me.  It looks to be in good condition and has the accessories.  After my Supernova,  I am highly anticipating a really great machine.  But - I've never thoroughly reconditioned one.  Any advise or hints or clues on what to look out for?  Or a methodology of where to start first?
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The BU is a manly looking machine, strong and quiet running.  I prefer the BU to a Pfaff 130, which has similar features.  The controls of the BU are more user friendly.  There is little to suggest at this point relative to reconditioning...oil him up and see what happens.
     The bed size and hinge location are the same as a full size Singer, although the hinge pin holes are smaller.  I would never alter the original hinge hole size by drilling the bed holes larger, as once done, you can't go back to original.  I simply made hinge pins of a smaller size.  I am running my BU in a Singer treadle cabinet, which I enjoy.
     They come with two preset bobbin cases, the lever of one is blue/black, so that you can tell them apart.  Also, three needle plates, zz, ss, and embroidery.  The brass oil can is cute, but I haven't used it.
     The BU is high shank and takes #15 bobbins, and standard needles..  The oil holes are sealed with a metal ball to exclude dirt & lint.
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 The oil holes are sealed with a metal ball to exclude dirt & lint.
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I always wondered what the little balls in the oil holes were for!  My Gammill has that and my Pfaff 130 too.  

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Farmer John- thanks for the info.  I'm very eager to see it and hopefully it will just need some cleaning and oil.  I like having more than one bobbin case - one for loose tension.  Then I don't need to keep readjusting when I change projects.  I'll probably keep this one portable so I won't need to worry about fitting into a cabinet- but time will tell!
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The older Necchi machines (pre-56 BU, Nova & Mira) are notorious for crumbling insulation on the wires. Check every millimeter even where the wires turn into the motor, use a flashlight if needed.  Deck paint is also a concern, luckily there's few decals and replacements are available.

Oiled and cleaned the BU should... allow you five needle positions. The lever has a indentation for left, middle and right, but if the machine is working smoothly you can often set the lever on the bump in between the settings and it will stay right there. If it vibrates it's way off, it may need more oil.

The Bakelite used for the lamp assembly is almost always brittle. Use great care with all three pieces, the lamp cover, the collar, and the switch assembly. Don't bump them until I get molds made, lol.

If you take the face plate off, watch putting it back on.
The presser foot tension indicator pin needs to align to the slot and can be bent if you're not wise to it. 

The feed dog drop lever is inside the slide plate opening, make sure the mechanism is clean and very well oiled.
Flipping that lever for the first time can be worrisome if it's crazy stiff.

It is true that any class 15 bobbin should work, but my BU seems to prefer the older ones with the solid metal sides (no holes).
i don't know why this is, but it does. It's almost as if the newer ones are too light?

'Portable' is not the word that first comes to mind when speaking of the BU. It's probably one of the heaviest machines in my house.
Your case needs a very good handle, and you may need to set it down a few times to get it where you're going.
No kidding. It's heavy. Use care. Bend your knees!

John is right though. The darn thing is so quiet the needle pierce can be the loudest noise.

If for any reason you feel a great need to dive into the motor, be prepared. The tiny little rivets that hold the metal tag to lower case must be reused if you can't find a supplier (and I can't). The metal tag may need to be loosened considerably if not removed entirely because those rivet ends have worn themselves into the ribs of the motor's outer shell under the cover. They can wear a little spot and not want to give an inch - and I know how ambitious you can be, so there. You've been warned. =)

I have the Nova manual as a pdf if you need it...(nearly identical to BU) say the word.


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Jim- very helpful information that you provided and I will consult your post as I am progressing along.  

For now, I've seen the machine and it has surpassed all my expectations so I'm thrilled.  It's in great shape - no rust, shinny paint with almost no chips, complete decals, very good case, and almost all the accessories.  It is turning easy and the motor purs nicely.  

I'm not sure I'll have much time to start on this project until I get back home.  I need a new belt (any recommendations on what particular type?).  The wiring has some replaced but I'll have to do a better inspection - initially it looks good - at least not dangerous..  The one issue is the bed paint is starting to alligator - see photo.  The rest of the paint is really good.  Anything I can do to control the alligator process?

Yes, it is super heavy so not sure I can take this back as a carry-on!  But we'll see...

Oh, and I'd love the manual - thanks so much.
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I have no idea on the glazing of the paint. never seen one with out a little. Perhaps a french polish, perhaps  several oil rub downs, perhaps a poly clear coat. Honestly don't know. If you find out, let me know. =)

BU belt: 12 5/8 inches (321mm) X 3/16 of an inch (5.7mm)

 
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Lucky you, Chaly! That brother of yours is a keeper! My BU is my go-to electric machine. (I have a Supernova as well, but have not really had a chance to bond with it - I may give it to my son and new DIL for a wedding present, but it's in a large German cabinet that takes up more space than they have in their apartment.)
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Hope y'all don't mind my asking this here - but my speaking of BU's my light bulb just blew yesterday - any suggestions on where to get a new one? Can I get one at the local Sew n' Vac type shop? Come to think of it, the one I had ran super hot [eek] - have any of you switched to an LED that fits these machines? 
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Hope y'all don't mind my asking this here - but my speaking of BU's my light bulb just blew yesterday - any suggestions on where to get a new one? Can I get one at the local Sew n' Vac type shop? Come to think of it, the one I had ran super hot [eek] - have any of you switched to an LED that fits these machines? 


If you take it out, you should be able to see if it's the bayonet style or one that screws in. Then, going by the base, you'll be able to replace it. I've changed all of my lights to led. If a shop doesn't have it, you'd be able to find it online. I've only run across one base size with the double bayonet bulbs, but there are a couple different widths for the screw in type.

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Ok, glad to know it's that simple. Off to try to remove that sucker. Thanks Maddie! [biggrin]
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I have no idea on the glazing of the paint. never seen one with out a little. Perhaps a french polish, perhaps  several oil rub downs, perhaps a poly clear coat. Honestly don't know. If you find out, let me know. =)

BU belt: 12 5/8 inches (321mm) X 3/16 of an inch (5.7mm)



Thanks, Jim.  Since this machine is in such good shape, I might take the time to see what can be done to protect the bed paint from further deterioration.  The rest of the paint on the machine is near perfect.  I don't care too much if the paint crazing is still noticeable - just want to  protect so I can use the machine.  It's current state is really quite subtle but in the right light you can see the alligatoring of the paint.

I'm also really excited about the case - I think it will look beautiful one I get it cleaned up and protected and polished.
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In the least likely of places:

https://www.singerdecals.com/necchi/

Something I've been meaning to order just to have a few lying around. =)

On my black BUs and Novas I usually rub them down often with the SMO, unless I don't plan on using it "as often" and then I have used a wax just to protect it. I can get away with using a Carnuaba wax (Johnson's, Mother's, etc) on the black Necchi's where I can't on the black Singers with lots of decals. Then again, I sort of enjoy the aging - as long as it isn't going to harm it further.

This is one of 'those' things. I type this sitting at my Dad's old civil war period desk. It's a huge honking heavy as sin thing with six drawers and a middle area that tilts. The original shellac finish 'alligatored' decades ago and many people say "Oh No, you have to leave it just like that. You can't buy that patina".

I really want to tell those people that there's a really good reason why you can't buy that patina; that's because it's hideous. The people that made this desk so many years ago never intended it to look like this. The desk they sold had a lovely grain and was a beautiful thing. This thing has the finish of dried cow patties. But, even at that, I wouldn't want to refinish it to look brand spanking new - but that's me. With the sewing machines it's a little different in that the sewing surface and the thread paths must be clean and clear. So I dunno. Play around with some oil, or wax and see what works for you. My dark green Nova has borderline-bad deck paint. I have no choice there, one of these days it will be stripped and repainted. Given the opportunity, I won't hesitate a second to re-do it. That's because it has to work.

*About being portable  - maybe one of those little wheeled luggage things? Like a mini-dolly. Slip it under the case, and add a nylon strap or two, and roll. That would sure make it a tad easier.

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I'm finally getting around to this project.  I started the case first.  There were paint speckles, nicks, scratches and grime on the case and metal parts but everything was intact and there was no mold or smell.  

I polished the metal with Bar Keeper's Friend, cleaned the inside and outside with saddle soap, polished with brown shoe polish and finally waxed with with paste wax with a last coat of Howard Feed-N-Wax. I also used white shoe polish to brighten up the decorative piping. The Necchi logo I repainted (after cleaning and prior to waxing) with some gold metallic acrylic paint I had on hand. The inside of the case I'm not sure what to do yet - I may reline it or even paint - I don't think I'll take off the old paper and refinish down to the wood. For now it's okay since the lining is intact and it is clean.  I have not started work on the bottom of the case yet - this will wait until I'm done with the machine.  I think the case is improved - I did not really know what I was doing but as I tested out small sections everything seemed to work out okay and the original surface and coloring held up.
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before complete front.jpg  before case front.jpg  before case top.jpg  case painting.jpg  case top.jpg  case back.jpg  case front.jpg 

 


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Beautiful!  You do nice work on everything you set your hand to.
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I'm just going to nod in agreement with Paul. Very nice work.
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Wow, that looks fantastic! Great job!
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Nice! Great job on the pinstripe, too. Finishing touch!
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Great job - your workmanship skills are amazing!
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Excellent!
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That's amazing -- right down to the Necchi gold label! Thanks for sharing the procedures, too. You've inspired us all...

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Thank you all for your kind words.  Like a lot of folks on this forum, I cherish these vintage machines and I think vintage Necchi machines have a special sense of style - including the cabinets and cases.  So I wanted to see what I could do to make this case beautiful once again.  I'm sure I'll not ever have an original Necchi cabinet - no space even if I run into one - so this case will have to suffice for the machine's home.  I hope to get the machine up and running and have it in my mix of sewing tools for my garment sewing.
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