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WI Lori

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My sister found these cams in a tin measuring 4.5"x6"x1.5". There are 20 cams. Diameter varies depending on the stitch. Height of cam 9/16". O.D. of knurled neck of cam is 3/4". I.D. if cam at top is 9/16". I.D. of cam center at bottom is 7/16".

Anyone know what these cams may fit?

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These cams fit Japanese White oscillating hook end-loader zigzag machines (they look like straight stitch machines, but the shuttle moves forward and back in line with the arm of the machine to form the zz stitch, so double needle work is not possible). These are good, solid machines. My wife has one, two tone green, a Model 1563, and I have an almost identical one, Model 565, baby blue and white.

The difference, besides color, is the 565 has an automatic bobbin winding clutch. My wife's 1563 has the standard clutch knob on the hand wheel. On my 565, the bobbin winder arm is raised to contact the winder wheel with the hand wheel which disengages the hand wheel for bobbin winding. The photos of the machines are not mine, but come from the internet. I haven't photographed my machines yet. 

I just recently did some sewing projects on my 565 and like it a lot. One was a bucket or "walking" hat, the others were just some mending jobs, I think. I do so much sewing with so many different machines I often loose track. I do know the hat was done on it. 

Interestingly, Laura (my wife) found this box of cams at Goodwill and bought them "just in case". I looked them up on the Yahoo group site for Japanese sewing machines (soon to be gone, unless moved to Groups.io) and found they fit the White. These are distinctive with the 3 colors and metal box. We found they fit the 1563. We found a machine about a year later. Last year, a friend told me about the 565 at the local thrift shop, and I picked it up. I could see it was the same as the 1563 except for the winder difference. At 14 dollars with cabinet, I couldn't pass it up. I found another set of cams on eBay, about 22 dollars. 

-Bruce White 1563 sewing machine.jpg  White 565 sewing machine.jpg 

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Thank you, Bruce.
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Additionally these cams will fit Japanese zigzags badged Domestic, Viking, and Eaton all sharing the same model numbers of: 464, 464R, 564. Note the 564 is stretch stitch capable and these cams are not, they will work in the 564 but you will not get the stretch stitch capabilities. I agree with Bruce, these machines are top notch, I'd put them on par with a Necchi BU. However these cams produce disappointing unattractive stitches when used. But so few use decorative stitches anyway. The blind hem cam is useful though.
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Thank you, Stephen.
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Thank you, Bruce & Stephen. I recently found a box of these. It was missing the blind hem. I'm thinking that the blind hem one is the one that can be used as a "basting stitch" if needle is threaded differently.

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Singer has the manual for the 464 model here:
https://www.singer.com/sites/default/files/outdated_product/743_white-464-r-x.pdf

I don't see mention of the basting stitch method, but it may be possible with the blind hem cam and edge stitcher attachment if you use a small seam allowance. I'm no sewing expert though so I'll leave that to the others. 😁

These Domestic branded machines come up once in a while on shop Goodwill and sadly the usually go unsold. They're heavy so shipping is a bit more, but just like the Necchi BUs that weigh a ton, they're worth the extra cost. If you ever want one I would go for one of the White models Bruce mentioned or the 564 because they have needle position. The 464 is awesome but it is a left homing straight stitch.
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I found the "basting stitch" in the manual for the 565 (also available from singer.com) on page 19. Since all the other stitch cams are for decorative satin stitches, the only conclusion would be the "blind stitch" cam. I have also seen a shorter needle that is used with the blind stitch pattern to make a longer basting stitch.

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These also fit my White 672.
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The machine with the turquoise body w/white accents looks like the White that my grandma Ruth had when I was a child.

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These also fit my White 672.
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Beautiful machine. Thank you for the update.
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