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I'm so excited! Needles finally showed up yesterday, so I was able to try it out. It sews, but not great yet. So quiet, though! And so pretty.

This one is apparently a later 8, since it has the actual bobbin case and smaller bobbin. Also a different bobbin case holder. However, it has the volute spring instead of the beehive spring.

One reason that the stitch isn't perfect is I can't thread it how I'm supposed to. If I go 1 1/2 times around the tension discs, the thread snaps. I've tried every different top tension and different ways of wrapping it around, but it still snaps. I can get it to sew without that, but the stitch is a bit loose.

Anyone else have this happen? I feel like it's user error, but I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.



Also, had anyone ever made bobbins out of featherweight bobbins for these? It seems to be a thing people say can be done, but I can't find anyone so far who says they've done it.

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Violet, you may need to disassemble and clean the top tension unit.  Rather than "tension disks", the #8 has a "Tension pulley"and it is intended to spin as the thread passes.  Friction is provided to the tension pulley via the spring and felt washers on either side of the pulley.  I think that there is a bronze bearing in the hub of the pulley, so a tiny bit of oil is good.
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Thanks! I didn't realize that. Now to figure out disassembly...
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And... much better! I still need to get the tension balanced, but I really need to fix the table first.

Thanks so much, John!

Does anyone have a recommendation for a replacement for the "emery" disc for sharpening needles? That and a side cut foot insert are the things I want most for it.

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I've found the WW#8 top tension (on mine, at least) to run quite tight, even after cleaning.  For instance, to pull thread through, I really need to pull at the right side of the tensioner first.  Perhaps I need to clean more carefully.

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Paul, mine is still tight like that. Before, it couldn't turn at all. I think the manual said to pull out extra thread by hand before removing the fabric. I've still been doing that.

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My replacement drawers are here! I didn't need both stacks, but I wasn't sure when I'd ever run across these exact ones again.

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Wheeler & Wilsons are my favorite sewing machines. I like the sounds they make when stitching.

The manual states that the felt pads surrounding the tension disk should not be oiled.

I find that my W&W 8s, 9s, D9s, 9Ws, 10W an 12W "gauge" the tension better when the pads are lightly lubricated with sewing machine oil. I also replaced a couple very thin, worn pads with wool "donuts" that I cut from wool fabric. 

I wrap the thread around the tension disk once counter clockwise. I don't understand "wrapping the tension 1 1/2 times". Yes, I often need to manually pull extra top thread when ending a seam. I don't find this a problem. 



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Thanks -- maybe I'll experiment with a little oil.  I think I've already replaced the felts.  Though it may be that using oil might make the tension vary more?  I've also found that I remember the tight tension as being worse than it really is -- it sews just fine.  (And yes -- I think it's more like 1-1/4 turns.)

But here's a question (probably better asked elsewhere, but I'm here now  :-), what do folks do to protect the decorations on the cloth plate, especially on a very old machine?  My WW #8 has a little faded floral motif in the corners of the bed, and sewing on it makes me nervous.

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Wheeler & Wilsons are my favorite sewing machines. I like the sounds they make when stitching.

The manual states that the felt pads surrounding the tension disk should not be oiled.

I find that my W&W 8s, 9s, D9s, 9Ws, 10W an 12W "gauge" the tension better when the pads are lightly lubricated with sewing machine oil. I also replaced a couple very thin, worn pads with wool "donuts" that I cut from wool fabric. 



Thanks! I did wonder about the felt. Mine is deteriorating, but not too far gone yet. It's good to know it doesn't have to be something special.

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Try waxing the bed, slide plate and throat/needle plate. Wax will also reduce any drag on the fabric as it passes under the presser foot.

You are lucky to have decorations/decals remaining on the bed.

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Thanks -- I like the wax idea.  I might also experiment with a plastic protector of some sort, but it will probably just be in the way.
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Paul, I have used Renaissance Wax for many years with great results.  What I like about it is a little goes a long way, it polishes out clear not with a yellow hue like some other paste waxes and doesn't show finger prints.  It is not inexpensive but I've been working out of the same can I bought Jan 2015.


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Thanks -- I've been using Feed 'n Wax, because it's a liquid, but maybe I should try something else.
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