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So, in my ongoing mission to save space, I've decided that have at least one less table in my sewing room is necessary. The ones in question are a Singer 31-15 in a treadle, and two Union Special straight stitchers (same model, one is a spare) that go in a motorized table.

I've been thinking about getting rid of the motor table and switching out the 31-15 and Union Special in the treadle. They both fit, and I've treadled them both. The downside would be that they each weigh a million pounds and would have to sit on the floor if I'm using the other one. Also they need different length belts.

The Union Special (I feel) is a stronger, nicer stitcher. It can go through heavier materials better than the Singer. The reason I don't just keep it and get rid of the 31-15 is parts availability, though I have a spare, and most importantly- it doesn't fit the buttonholer I have.

Is this crazy, or is there another potential problem I'm not thinking of?

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seems like work, but reasonable
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It definitely is work, but my sewing room is smaller than some people's closets, so I'm trying to do whatever I can to make it work.

I thought of just keeping the 31-15, since it can do it all, but the Union Special is just so nice to use.

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perhaps something like this?
Image result for three bench tools in one stand"

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That's amazing!
Or I could have something like a Murphy bed but with sewing machines.

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Hah!  A power tool ferris wheel!

Would a second treadle, on which to permanently mount a Union Special, take enough less room than the current motor table?

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Not really, and my 31-15 treadle is the only industrial one I've seen come up for sale in my area.

It's so hard to decide!

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I have just such an industrial bench, and a treadle cabinet that takes multiple heads too. Just need to keep a few treadle and motor belts since the hand wheels are different.
Might be biased but I think it's a great idea 😉

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I'm glad someone else is doing this!
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Violet -- maybe you could at least get a narrow stand on which to store the currently un-treadled machine, so that at least you don' t need to lift to/from floor level every time.  I guess you'd need for both machines on their at a time, or else a place on another table to set one while you move the other.
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Possibly. I'll have to see what my available space looks like. Or I can just count it as a workout.
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Given the size and weight of most industrials I would say that while its doable you'll quickly get tired of making the switch from one machine to the other.
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Given the size and weight of most industrials I would say that while its doable you'll quickly get tired of making the switch from one machine to the other.


Perhaps, but it's not like I have to do it daily. I'm also very tired of having my ironing board set up in front of one of the tables, and trying to squeeze around it, repeatedly knocking my iron and spray bottle on the floor.

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Perhaps, but it's not like I have to do it daily. I'm also very tired of having my ironing board set up in front of one of the tables, and trying to squeeze around it, repeatedly knocking my iron and spray bottle on the floor.


This is why I use a table top ironing board most of the time. It fits on the top of a closed standard size cabinet. I only get the big ironing board out when I need it for yardage.

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Personally, if it was me, I can see the 31-15 not getting used as the trouble of setting up up would make me choose to do something else. I can identify with a crowded sewing room and the ironing board in the way. Would you be able to put castors on the machines so the one not being used is tucked into a corner while the current one is in the more prominent spot? 
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Are the 31-15 and the Union Special(s) similar enough that you could satisfy your need to keep and use both by doing an annual swap, and keeping the unused one somewhere else entirely? (storage room/cellar/etc) All projects for the year (or whatever period) would be done on one machine.

(I don't have room to display all of my treadles, so I periodically rotate them.  Currently the 1871 Howe is in the cellar.)

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Are the 31-15 and the Union Special(s) similar enough that you could satisfy your need to keep and use both by doing an annual swap, and keeping the unused one somewhere else entirely? (storage room/cellar/etc) All projects for the year (or whatever period) would be done on one machine.

(I don't have room to display all of my treadles, so I periodically rotate them.  Currently the 1871 Howe is in the cellar.)

paul


Two of them can fit on the floor under the left hand side of the treadle. Unfortunately, no other rooms of storage here. I usually choose machines based on what project I'm doing. Right now, I'm on the fourth of seven pair of jeans already cut out. The Union Special excels at this, all except the buttonholes.
I found out, though, that a different machine is better if I'm doing lighter weight fabric. So the swapping would be project based, but I usually do multiples of the same thing in one go. Definitely not switching out daily! I'd get really strong really fast if that was the case.

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I have a similar situation. Can only fit one industrial table in my space. I want to use it for leather work. I am going to build my own table top out of multiple layers of plywood. I’ll make one universal opening and make custom sized inserts for each machine. There are three, a Singe 31-15, a high post machine, and a Fortuna Skiver (a machine that thins leather, and a Singer Overlock machine. The trick is to make the location of the drive belt consistent. Going to use a Servo to drive them and store machines on a heavy wire rack. When I need to use a machine, take it off the shelf, and put it in the table. Will use a blank insert( no machine) to hav a plain work table.
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I have a similar situation. Can only fit one industrial table in my space. I want to use it for leather work. I am going to build my own table top out of multiple layers of plywood.


Well, if you're in the Portland, OR area, I have a motorized table! The top is nice thick butcher block type wood.

Clutch motor, though.

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Can you find a buttonholer to fit the union?
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Can you find a buttonholer to fit the union?


I don't think so. They're weird machines, definitely not Singer copies like so many out there. My buttonholer is the industrial Ys star, so it's really good, it just only works on my 31-15.

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Didn’t they make button holders for union machines? 
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Didn’t they make button holders for union machines? 


Not that I've been able to find. Mostly, for industrial machines, you'd have a special buttonhole machine or this attachment. It has various needle clamps, but none that fit that machine. I tried, I really did.

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