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I have been wanting a Singer 201K in the second body style (aluminum) for a few years now but they just don't show up often in the US.  I found one earlier this year but as badly as I wanted it and as willing as I was to drive immediately to get it, there was poor communication from the seller and it just didn't happen.  I'm sure many of you have been there and done that!

I finally just gave up hoping to stumble on one within driving range and bought one from the UK.  It was more than I usually pay and the shipping on top of that was excessive.  I waited on pin and needles for it to arrive.  Part way through the waiting process I was googling the shipping method and reading distressing news about eBay's chosen shipper and had a glimpse of what I might expect.  Now the pins and needles were even worse!  Finally the day arrived!

When I heard the mail truck pull up in the driveway, I ran outside to meet it.  The mail lady said I have one for you--it's very heavy.  She asked me what it was and she said it was poorly wrapped--ugh.  [frown]

The sides of the box were tearing open.  She set it gently inside the door and I drew in a breath and started the unwrapping.  There was a lot of tape and bubble wrap and bits of cardboard and Styrofoam.  Some parts fared better than others.  The bentwood top came though alright!  The bottom-not so much.  Both front corners are shattered and not in straight lines where they would be easiest to repair.  One of the machine supports was knocked loose and the hold down screw twisted out of shape.  The machine seems to have made it through ok.  Luckily it was wrapped to the base which I think really helped.  It's obviously been upside down and all around and there is oil everywhere-some of it just dripping.  I am guessing it was in the gear cups.  My tummy is upset.  I think I will be happy with it once I get beyond the disappointment of it's less than perfect arrival.  I haven't contacted the seller yet-not sure what to do there.  I took it out of the case for now so the dripping oil won't saturate the case bottom making it even more difficult to repair.  It has an original Singer crank on it and moves fairly freely although catches once in awhile at the top of the stroke.  I'm trying to discern whether that will be a matter of a bit more cleaning or whether something may have been whanged just a little too hard and is off kilter. 



Here is the sellers picture so you can see it in it's glory.
s-l1600 (2) (750 x 422).jpg  and here are a few unwrapping photos.

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Oh, Christy, that's too bad. It sure is a beauty, otherwise. I would notify seller asap with proof of damage, so it cannot be said it happened while in your care. You can address solutions once you know more.
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Oh, Christy, that's too bad. It sure is a beauty, otherwise. I would notify seller asap with proof of damage, so it cannot be said it happened while in your care. You can address solutions once you know more.


I notified the seller already.  I'm not sure what they can do but I sent photos.  That made me feel a little better.  It was awkward having to contact the seller and let them know about the damage.

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So sorry your beauty got damaged but it looks to me like you'll be able to make repairs to make it fine again - I'm sure once the repairs are made one won't even notice that there was any damage.  And the machine and case top made it unscathed.  

Lucky you to have this one.  Do you plan to use it for any projects?
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I hope you're right!  Yes I was pretty amazed the case top did fine.  That's usually the first thing to be destroyed from what I've seen of others' experiences.

I am hoping to use it for projects when I just want to take my time.  Being aluminum it's not such a heavy beast so I can move it around the house or take it outside much easier!

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I heard back from the seller and they are offering me a small discount due to the damage which I find fair.  I will do my best to get a good repair on the box.  I'm not sure what has to be done yet but I suspect I'll have to make it worse before I make it better.  [eek]  I'll head to the garage and gather up some clamps and such today!
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It's really a shame that people that are shipping sewing machines and pretending to know what they're doing, clearly don't.  Put a 30lb piece of cast iron in a cardboard box, and you'd better work *very hard* to make sure it doesn't move around!  I assume it wasn't double boxed, right?  Such a shame.  Glad it wasn't worse!

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I'm to the point now where I send the seller a link to the "how to ship a sewing machine" article, and if they won't talk sense to me, I won't buy their machine!

With that said, my last shipped machine, the NSMCo "Model D", was pretty well packed (seller followed the directions) but still managed to disintegrate the base partially. Fixable, and it needed work anyway - but annoying. I'm going to start insisting on shipping the base completely separately if its one I care about...

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It's really a shame that people that are shipping sewing machines and pretending to know what they're doing, clearly don't.  Put a 30lb piece of cast iron in a cardboard box, and you'd better work *very hard* to make sure it doesn't move around!  I assume it wasn't double boxed, right?  Such a shame.  Glad it wasn't worse!

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I think the seller really did his best.  There was a lot of Styrofoam and cardboard, and bubble wrap and tape.  For it to come all this way from the UK with as little damage as it had I think he had to really be trying.  I've read some pretty negative things about the Global shipping that eBay uses.  One person even said they unwrap your items to check them over in customs and then re-wrap them again poorly.  I'm not sure if this is true or not but it sure had me scared while I was waiting to receive the package.  I'm not sure I would go this route again though.

Although the damage at the corners looks minor, the structure was weakened and I had to break the corners out to re-glue them properly.  Everything is glued and clamped right now, but the outside edges do NOT look pretty.  Once thte structure is secure I'll have to see what I can do there.  [frown]

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The irony!  It burns!  I just remembered that I'm the guy that just two weeks ago sent Zorba a couple of grub screws, and they didn't make it because they were poorly packaged!!

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Just to keep us bolt counters happy, is that machine what they would call a mid-fifties to early sixties 201k23? 
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Just to keep us bolt counters happy, is that machine what they would call a mid-fifties to early sixties 201k23? 


It would be the later aluminum body style and I think it would be a 201k24 since it''s the hand crank version.  😉  

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       That is a Beautiful Machine! I know only too well the heartbreak when a shipped machine arrives damaged. 

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I finally have the base mended and things back together. 😃  I'm happy enough with how it turned out and I am really pleased to have this lovely machine!  The less attractive corner is in the back so it doesn't draw your eye. The crank mechanism is very smooth and I love the extension bed.  Also the seller had included a rubber mat that may have just been part of the packing seeing as it was very torn.  I was able to glue it back together and it's great to use under the case!  It cushions any vibrations.

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That came out very nice!  Well done!
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Christy.  An inspiring thread.  Excellent work!
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I have often seen that mat with vintage machines here in the UK. Very handy, keeps the machine still too.
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Christy, that is an admirable repair job!  Nicely done!  Beautiful machine.
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Oh! You have a black handcrank! Be still my beating heart. It was worth the wait! And it's beautiful.

I found my 201K machine on ShopGoodwill in Washington state a few years ago. It is a milky brown and dark brown electric with a 220 motor. Fortunately Ray W had the appropriate cord in his stash and I purchased a step down transformer. 

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That looks great!  It was a pain, I'm sure, and annoying that it was necessary... but great job!
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Nice repairs! Congrats on getting a beautiful machine.
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Thank you Steve!  Coming from you that means a lot!  You had mad skills that I can only hope to come near some day.  

Mrs. D. thank you so much.  I'm glad the story ended well.  😃

charley26, I don't know why but we in in the US don't seem to have any mats with our machines but they really are great!  Do you think they only came out with hand cranks?

Thank you Hilltophomesteader.  😃

Phyllis, it was worth it.  I've been wanting this machine for years and they just don't come around in the US.  I had finally found one and lost out and when I started bidding on this one I wondered if I was having a knee-jerk reaction and would regret it, but I don't.  I've waited forever and it's not likely another one was going to come available.  It's a great machine!

pgf,  yeah it was a pain and a letdown when the box arrived, but I know it could've been so much worse!  I knew ahead of time it was a risk to order from so far away.  I'm glad it's here and now it's repaired and ready to sew!

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Regarding mats -- most of my machines end up with felt feet to protect the furniture.  That makes them completely slippery on a table, so I keep a couple of pieces of toolbox drawer liner around to set them on when I sew with them.  It's especially important with hand cranks!
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Those Singer mats aren't common. I know two people who have one and they are starting to get brittle and crack.

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My one Singer mat came with one of my Singer 201K-4s (hand cranks) machines that I purchased years ago on eBay. Luckily, it is not yet brittle.
When a machine case arrives at my house, I immediately add either plastic or adhesive felt bed cushions to protect surfaces. I purchased the plastic bed cushions from McMaster Carr years ago.

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Interesting idea for a "VSS Product"  Logo mats for handcranks....
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Yes!
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That would be cool Steve!  

Phyllis, I tried adhesive feet for the bottoms of machines in cases before but they held onto the thin case cover and then tore that away when they came off.  I like the plastic ones that you nail in on the bottom for bentwood cases.  The other cases aren't always in the best shape or the nicest wood so I'm not sure about the nail in type unless they are smaller nails?  Hmmmm..



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Steve-  I've not tried to remove the adhesive felt bed cushions/feet/furniture protectors. They are inexpensive and easy to apply, but can remove the paper from the case. I also use them on the bottom of coffin tops and to replace the deteriated rubber stops the machines rest on. 
I use short wood screws to attach the plastic ones. 


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