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Matt,

That Free is in amazing condition.

I was working on cleaning up a Free treadle I recently got. It has the jointed mechanism not the ball bearings, but it reminds me of my Singer 101, you give the hand wheel a little push, and it spins, and spins. And the treadle for this machine is just same, it takes the lightest touch. I can't wait to sew on this machine.

The ball bearing Rotoscillo is very cool looking, but I can't imagine that it could possibly run any smoother than the other version.



I know Tammy, but I *wantttt* the ball bearing version. You know how it is : )
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Haha thanks everyone for being comforting about the Touch & Sews. I also realize, and similarly feel the anguish deep down, that in general they represented a "step-off" point for Singer, and quality, and Made in USA, etc. I was also shocked to find they can chain stitch, and to see my mom's attachments for that (though she never used that feature). 

ACTUALLY -- this is one really interesting thing. When I told AndyTube about this he was amazed. My mom's Golden Touch & Sew 640 has a vacuum-assist needle threader nozzle that drops down from inside the left cover, to position itself behind the needle and literally suck the thread through the eye. When a lever is pressed, it actuates a switch under the top cover that turns on a vacuum pump, which is impossibly shoehorned in amongst the hook transmission and throat plate positioner and wires etc. You can also see the vacuum tubing hilariously snake its way under the needlebar position lever and spring, negotiate the cam stack selectors, and plunge down with the other wires to the bowels of the machine.
To our knowledge, this is the only machine that has ever included a feature like this, certainly the only Singer we know of -- PLEASE let me know if others know otherwise!

There are two things I broke while playing "spaceship" and later using my mom's T&S -- the bobbin winder lever, and the nozzle on the needle threader. Now I have the parts to replace them both : )

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Nice looking Howe.  Need to start finding some of these things south of the Mason Dixon line.  [frown]


You know that that border has been open for a long time, right?  It's the Canadian border that's closed.  ;-)

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These are for Tammy (who needs more portables!)

Deerfield MA: $50 bucks. Unknown tan Singer:
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1042686286164732

Somers CT: $50 each, two bentwoods, one is a Singer the other?
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/244698033443378

Townsend MA: $35. Two Singer heads, one bentwood, some re-assembly required:
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/365489524578678

East Boston MA: Singer Hand Crank portable $120:
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/255550195735745

Argyle NY (not at all portable) Centennial 201 in 42 for $30 dollars... no really:
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3543894982340443

Norwood NJ, $100 1926 Singer 15 in short parlor
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3293613094090111

Medford MA: somewhat unusual 1931 Singer 101 in the Queen Anne Cabinet: Asking $175 (best decals I've ever seen).
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3305294649554503

Lexington MA: $85 dollar Red Eye in the Singer 'Space Saver' cabinet:
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/754267288472449


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I know Tammy, but I *wantttt* the ball bearing version. You know how it is : )


Yep, the heart wants what the heart wants, and when you get it, I want to see a video of it in action. Yes, I've seen the video on YouTube, but is more special when you know(even through the web) the person who has the machine.

I really like the machine you linked to. I would love to find a portable version near me. All my cabinet space has been claimed, if fact it may be over booked.  I have a few cabinets in temporary spots, can't reach the book cases. I should be organizing, rather than looking at sewing machine ads.

Anyway, I have a small clan of the Free/Free-Westinghouse machines. The two out of the four, that I have cleaned up and running, are fantastic machines. I think these machines are under-rated, and well worth having.

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I saw this last night. Made me giggle:

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Not a sewing machine, and the script is wrong, but still...


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Jim,

I saw the tan one, have the ad open in a tab.  Haven't talked myself into contacting them. Maybe a 185? The light is weird, I mean besides the tape, and that it's hanging off the front of the machine. Strange shape, can't tell if it is broken, or just a different shape.  The case and the foot pedal are super cool. And there's that green Singer tin, don't have one of those.

Have two 128's, one came with my Singer 24. Two 101's, second was free, machine not bad except really worn cloth plate, cabinet a big flakey mess. I need to fix up machines that I'm not keeping, to make room, but I have machines that I really want to use, that keep taking top priority.

Thought about the "requires assembly", just for the case and knee lever. But, I would want to fix up the 99, and it is just over an hour drive.

I don't have a hand-crank, but for that price I feel like the decals should be in better shape.

Space-saver, that's funny.

My mind does, keep wandering back to the tan one though. Going with the idea, that if someone else doesn't take it, maybe.  That how I ended up with my W&W no.9, one month and three price drops later.

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Tammy, I was just having some fun, You gave me an excuse to post some ads. That 101 is too pricey, but it isn't common at all when it comes to 101s. (both 1931 and a Queen Anne).

The tan Singer portable is most likely (IMHO) a 191k.

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My mom's Golden Touch & Sew 640 has a vacuum-assist needle threader nozzle that drops down from inside the left cover, to position itself behind the needle and literally suck the thread through the eye. When a lever is pressed, it actuates a switch under the top cover that turns on a vacuum pump, which is impossibly shoehorned in amongst the hook transmission and throat plate positioner and wires etc. You can also see the vacuum tubing hilariously snake its way under the needlebar position lever and spring, negotiate the cam stack selectors, and plunge down with the other wires to the bowels of the machine.

To our knowledge, this is the only machine that has ever included a feature like this, certainly the only Singer we know of -- PLEASE let me know if others know otherwise!
 


I know that there are T&S machines that have a manual needle threader that screws into the front of the machine, if I recall correctly.  You manually operate it and move the small hook through the needle eye, catch the thread and pull it back through the eye.  Much like current machines have on them.  I'm pretty sure my granny's 628, which is sitting in my parents' closet right now doesn't have one of these, but I have one to put on it when I do end up with it.  I LOVE the vacuum-assist thing, but I don't know that I've seen it before.  Then again, I haven't worked on many of those.  But the needle threader option is one of the reasons why I keep eyeing that 631G as something that might have something over my 431G. 

And, yes, the T&S series chain stitch.  It's not hard  or expensive to find the parts for that on eBay, unless you're talking the 431G machine, of course.  If your 431G didn't come with the right bobbin case or the chain stitch plate, it's a royal pain to find those parts.  And it looks like there are a LOT of those machines that came with the non-chain-stitching bobbin case; ie, the 401 bobbin case.  When I finally found the chain stitch throat plate, I thought I had it made - ha!  Took me quite a while to figure out that the bobbin case was the one for the 401 machine.  So, then the hunt began for the correct bobbin case.  But I digress....

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Tammy, I was just having some fun, You gave me an excuse to post some ads. That 101 is too pricey, but it isn't common at all when it comes to 101s. (both 1931 and a Queen Anne).

The tan Singer portable is most likely (IMHO) a 191k.


I know Jim, all taken in fun. A 191k? I am not familiar with that model.  Off to do some research. That machine just got a little more interesting.

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If you find a 191j in your research, make sure to send it to me.  I don't have one of those!

Here's a photo from another upcoming sale. Is it me? Or does that look like a sewing machine cabinet stuffed under the workbench?

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Interesting set of irons, what machine might they be for?

https://desmoines.craigslist.org/atq/d/johnston-antique-sewing-machine-treadle/7184831971.html

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If you find a 191j in your research, make sure to send it to me.  I don't have one of those!

Here's a photo from another upcoming sale. Is it me? Or does that look like a sewing machine cabinet stuffed under the workbench?

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My guess is that's a desk, maybe a child sized one?  At one time DS had a desk similar that was a bit smaller than my desk.  It looks like it was done up in the same orange/red "antiqued" finish that's on my desk.  Not as ugly the olive green version, IMHO, and way better than the blotchy results and mismatched woods that resulted when Mom removed the original failing finish.  

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A Facebook post that's close to me if anyone is interested in some old sewing machine motors.  Sounds like they might get trashed if someone doesn't pick them up. 20200915_174558.jpg 


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Gail, I don't know what those irons are for, but they sure are pretty! I would be tempted if they were near me.

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Saw this last night and had to dig further:

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Didn't find much, but there was an article about re-timing the machine which said:
When Maxwell's silver needle comes down upon the bed...

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East Lake Ohio: $45 dollars: W&W

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Huntington WV: Gritzner made "Lady Kenmore" (circa 1961)
Sometimes referred to as the 'Holy Grail' of Kenmores... $35 dollars?
109338195_149260920150538_8377637707828027921_o.jpg  https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/374871386814014

This one isn't for anyone but Cari:
Brother Select-o-matic in the funkiest cabinet evah..
Goshen Indiana: $35
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*do note the screw on fifth leg that hasn't been lost! That cabinet just rocks. Want one.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/615105872524322


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Jim,

I saw the tan one, have the ad open in a tab.  Haven't talked myself into contacting them. Maybe a 185? The light is weird, I mean besides the tape, and that it's hanging off the front of the machine. Strange shape, can't tell if it is broken, or just a different shape.  The case and the foot pedal are super cool. And there's that green Singer tin, don't have one of those.

Have two 128's, one came with my Singer 24. Two 101's, second was free, machine not bad except really worn cloth plate, cabinet a big flakey mess. I need to fix up machines that I'm not keeping, to make room, but I have machines that I really want to use, that keep taking top priority.

Thought about the "requires assembly", just for the case and knee lever. But, I would want to fix up the 99, and it is just over an hour drive.

I don't have a hand-crank, but for that price I feel like the decals should be in better shape.

Space-saver, that's funny.

My mind does, keep wandering back to the tan one though. Going with the idea, that if someone else doesn't take it, maybe.  That how I ended up with my W&W no.9, one month and three price drops later.


I see the tan one has sold.  I hope you grabbed it!  I'm thinking maybe a 316G?

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Unfortunately, I didn't. I did email a friend of mine who is on Facebook, and asked her to inquire for me, since I'm not on Facebook. But, apparently she didn't check her email. Guess I should have asked hubby to do, but he was really busy yesterday.

Maybe I'll open a Facebook account, just to use for sewing machine stuff.  But I'm still not crazy about having anything to do with Facebook, of course I hate missing out on nice machines. But do I really "need" anymore machine?  Except for a Davis NVF, that I definitely need.

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Unfortunately, I didn't. I did email a friend of mine who is on Facebook, and asked her to inquire for me, since I'm not on Facebook. But, apparently she didn't check her email. Guess I should have asked hubby to do, but he was really busy yesterday.

Maybe I'll open a Facebook account, just to use for sewing machine stuff.  But I'm still not crazy about having anything to do with Facebook, of course I hate missing out on nice machines. But do I really "need" anymore machine?  Except for a Davis NVF, that I definitely need.


Oh bummer!  That was a sweet deal!  Hmmm do you really "need" another machine?  Do  you need air to breathe?  YES!!  Of course you do!

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Thanks Christy, I needed that. Sometimes I feel like I've gone way overboard on sewing machines. When I feel like I'm over the edge, there is someone here to say "no you're just fine, look we're near the edge, it's perfectly safe".[smile]
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What's this one?
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https://boston.craigslist.org/nos/atq/d/marblehead-antique-sewing-machine/7197434964.html
Cool looking base.


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Nice looking Lotus. Albany, NY

Singer Treadle Sewing Machine Lotus - $150
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https://albany.craigslist.org/atq/d/westerlo-singer-treadle-sewing-machine/7197230440.html


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Nice Lotus.  Is that a parlor cabinet on the back right?   Interesting the last patent date is 1910, but I think the serial number dates it as from August of 1907.

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Good eye on seeing the parlor cabinet.  It looks very much like our 24 cabinet except with a plain front.  Singer made both plain and embossed.  
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Jim if that brother was anywhere in WA I'd be all over it. That cabinet is gorgeous! One of my brothers lives in Indiana and I thought about asking him to go get it for me but it's too far from him and I know he's got nowhere to store it.

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What's this one?
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https://boston.craigslist.org/nos/atq/d/marblehead-antique-sewing-machine/7197434964.html
Cool looking base.


Looks like my Queen treadle (by White SM Co.).  (couldn't load a pic for some reason...)


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Nice looking Embossed White, in a nice looking Martha Washington cabinet, at a nice looking price, including a bunch of nice looking accessories.

Central MA, $50.

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The weekend is looming and everyone needs to see these because, well, you know, because:

The first is an unknown Singer Industrial in the coolest table set-up ever.
I have no idea what model, but dang if it doesn't look good!

Buffalo New York: $150 dollars is what they're asking but it's been up for 21 days...
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https://buffalo.craigslist.org/tls/d/buffalo-sewing-machine-hd-commercial/7185344395.html


another one of those ads I want to keep to myself
- but the chance of my hopping in the car and driving that far for a sewing machine are pretty darn slim.


Made for a brief moment in time (1873-1888) in Springfield Ohio, the machine that couldn't go backwards:
$125 dollars, Willow Street PA (a few miles south of Lancaster). The rare as hen's teeth Royal St. John:
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/288536852373145

If someone we know doesn't pick that up... it would be a shame.


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I really want to see a St John in person....
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https://buffalo.craigslist.org/tls/d/buffalo-sewing-machine-hd-commercial/7185344395.html


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If someone we know doesn't pick that up... it would be a shame.


I sent the seller a message.  fingers crossed...

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I bought a Royal St John machine head and later found a full treadle base that was made into a table with an inexpensive mdf top. I am not near either one right now, but will try to post photos later.
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I sent the seller a message.  fingers crossed...

Greg


I'll keep my fingers crossed for you then! =)

Still annoyed that I hadn't found it sooner, listed for seven weeks! yeesh!

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$20 head in parlor cabinet, Minneapolis area Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/326541685072011/

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I sent the seller a message.  fingers crossed...

Greg


Oh my GOSH!  Crossing my fingers AND TOES for you!  What a stunning and unusual prize!  Keep us posted!

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Good luck, Greg! I was temped, but it would be a 4.5 hr drive each way for me, so cooler heads prevailed. Plus, no space. 

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Greg, that would be a nice machine to get, fingers crossed for you here too!!! I very much like the look of the table that St. John sewing machine has.

That is a VERY good deal on VS2 in a parlor cabinet

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Singer IF with NICE decals near Albany, NY $65.00. On CL

https://albany.craigslist.org/atq/d/westerlo-singer-sewing-machine/7197235102.html

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They're asking a hundred bucks. Tag appears to say "29"
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"The wheels all turn, the peddle works, but the part that actually moves the needle up and down is seized up."

Should I be in the car already? =)



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Only if you're really desperate! [nono]
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Price is a tad stiff, but where are you going to find another one?
$195 dollars, Syracuse New York:
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/537124207080831

$50 Dollar Universal electric and early to mid-fifties, so cool:
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/261069984956740

Singer 101 in nice shape, 40 bucks, Windham, NY:
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/626389424687660

Arvada Colorado (where?) which is too far away, and it's a little too expensive at $165,
but I can dream right? (never ever have I seen a Domestic Imperial automatic that super clean!)
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/366026964565288

Elyria Ohio (west of Cleveland) $100 Grasshopper:
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https://cleveland.craigslist.org/atq/d/elyria-elma-1-sewing-machine/7195083809.html

Culpeper Virginia, $40 bucks:
(and if you don't know what it is, you're on the wrong website)
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/624441148259517

South Rockwood Michigan: Ten bucks for a different looking set of attachments with a darning plate?
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/913955669072824

$50 dollar Domestic treadle in Clinton MI:
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/650262292539259



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Unusual motor mount
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$200 for a Class 12 is way cheap!
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I'll keep my fingers crossed for you then! =)

Still annoyed that I hadn't found it sooner, listed for seven weeks! yeesh!


Sometimes it pays to have lots of siblings scattered around the country.  My sister is going to pick up the Royal St. John this evening.  I won't have it in my hands for a while, but that gives my time to make room for it somewhere.  I think the futon is going this time.

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Yeah! Woohoo!

*does happy dance*

You got a great Sis, and a really hard to find machine. Guess we'll have to wait to hear about the straight-ahead no matter which way you pedal part.

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I think the futon is going this time.


Ha ha, oh my. Anyone else remember the time when you had floor space for things like furniture? Oh takes me back. Happy days.

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Great score Greg!  You can always get another futon when can you get another Royal?
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Oh, wonderful! Glad to see her going (coming) to a good home. That is such a beautiful machine.
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Great score Greg!  You can always get another futon when can you get another Royal?


Excellent point!  When I start dating again I'll have to find someone who likes old sewing machines and doesn't mind sitting on a folding chair.

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They're asking a hundred bucks. Tag appears to say "29"


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Only if you're really desperate! [nono]
(you'll need 15 gallons of EvapoRust for that one!)


That was my thought.  $100 is cheap, but they're not that uncommon, and ones in far better condition show up for not that much more once in a while.  (If you were already set up with electrolysis baths, and wanted to repaint, then sure, but otherwise?)

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