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WI Lori

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Saw this HC at a Historical Society museum. The sign said dates to 1900, and the donor's name. Still turns freely. (Shhh!)
I think it needs an identity and a closer decade of birth. What say you?

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Two more photos: shuttle and the pillar top inspection plate marked "Oil."

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WOW!!!!  That is the ONLY other American BHO machine with that stitch length adjustment that I have seen! 
The #7 that this most resembles usually has a round stitch length adjustment.

Mine is still in my "Unknown" category although CLEARLY made by American based on the shuttle.

here is mine.
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BHO?
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blind hem orientation, big honkin' oilcan, blunderbuss horn oiler...  [biggrin]
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American Buttonhole, Over Seaming and Sewing Machine Company.
Philadelphia Pennsylvania

According to Smithsonian - sewing-machines.pdf - it was in existence from 1867-1893 and in 1874 became the American Sewing Machine Company but dates the latter to 1874-1888

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Steve, nice machine, thank you for the ID! Jim, :) . Janey, can you share the Smithsonian link?
Sewalot has this list, incomplete? Smithsonian Production Numbers

1-7792 1869
7793 - 22366 1870
22367 - 42488 1871
42489 - 61419 1872
61420 - 75602 1873
75603 - 89132 1874
89133 - 103539 1875
103540 - 121477 1876
Needle bar doesn't show the #7 with leaf tension (ETA: Janey found a photo I missed!)
Sewmuse says: In the 1880's the No. 7 and No. 8 sewing machines were introduced. The No. 8 being a hand-crank version which was available with either a cast iron or Walnut base.

Recap: this is an American BHO made, #7 or #8 variant, dating to the 1880s? Could have been badged?
Would a serial number help? Where would the serial# be on this machine? The slide plates were unmarked (s.n. stamped underneath the slide plate?).

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http://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollections/Trade-Literature/Sewing-Machines/pdf/sewing-machines.pdf



Not the same but an American with leaf tension http://needlebar.org/cm/displayimage.php?album=409&pid=5695#top_display_media

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Thank you, Janey. I'm not sure where I looked, but didn't look far enough! The Smithsonian doc is an interesting read, thank you!
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Thank you, Janey. I'm not sure where I looked, but didn't look far enough! The Smithsonian doc is an interesting read, thank you!


It is my pleasure :) The Smithsonian has lots of good stuff.

I could not find the production numbers that are on sewalot site. -- Found it in "the Sewing Machine: Its Invention and Development" Grace Rogers Cooper in chapter 3

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https://sewalot.com/american_sewing_machine.htm

It is about 2/3 of the way down, below the drawing of the 1873 #7.

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I'll have to check mine to see where it is located.  My slide plates are blank as well I believe
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If you zoom in and look at the base of the spool pin you can see where the serial number is stamped




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That's a low serial#, Steve! Thank you very much.

Question regarding the front screw for opening the sewing machine... is it a spring release, or something else? Needle size?

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