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Ok,

So, picking up this machine was one of the reasons for the cross country road trip we just made...

This is a Elias Howe (Stockwell brothers) model C.  It is a long arm made for heavy fabric and light leather.

This particular machine was in the care of a gentleman in Knoxville TN who was a friend of the Howe family.  They received this from the estate in Dr Howe's will with the intent that it would be cared for and/or preserved.

When I picked it up it was in worse shape than I remembered, but it was also a wheel feed, which he had not mentioned.  Wheel feed is a large wheel with teeth like a normal feed dog all around the edge.  instead of the small feet moving back, down, forward, up over and over, it just turns the wheel one bit per stitch.

I had my work cut out for me....
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I'm sure you are up to the work involved to get this back into operation.  I would like to see one of those in person some day.   I think the roller feed is neat.  

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disassembled 
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pre-disassemble, but good view of copmponents
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That is a fascinating machine. I want to play with one.
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Parts cleaned and ready for re-assembly

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all assembled
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close up of wheel feed unit
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I even found some artwork remaining!

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all assembled and ready to sew!

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It certainly went to the right place.
Congrats Steve!
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Wow, you're fast!
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You've got some spa for those machines.  What a makeover!
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Steve's house is where all old sewing machines want to go to be resurrected. That is a sweet machine, and a very nice restoration!
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It certainly went to the right place.
Congrats Steve!
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ditto that -- Beautiful restoration.

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thanks folks

Orange oil cleaner, Brasso, and SM oil.

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Fantastic job cleaning up the machine! What do you use to get the orange oil off? Does it dissolve rust? I've never heard of anyone using orange oil on a sewing machine.
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Fantastic job cleaning up the machine! What do you use to get the orange oil off? Does it dissolve rust? I've never heard of anyone using orange oil on a sewing machine.


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Brasso and Ultrasonic cleaner with CLR for the rust
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Lovely job and labor of love I am sure you are proud of your work.
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Amazing restoration.
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How common is the Model C in the wild?

I have a "C" shuttle, the roller foot, and the bobbin winder that mounts to the treadle frame, but no machine [frown]

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To put it in perspective I'd gladly pay over $100 for just the Shuttle....  Because I have a C with a Machine and treadle with no Shuttle.  LOL

I have 2 of them, but they were the only ones I have seen for sale in 10 years.

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Steve, that looks terrific! Did you use the Orange Glo on the machine head itself? I have a similar project with a lot of paint missing on the head and rust showing through. Also, did you coat the head with anything at the end to keep it from re-rusting? 

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Thanks.  I used Sewing Machine Oil only on the japanned portions of the machine. 
The metal bits were cleaned with Sewing machine oil and Brasso.

Nope, no re-coating.  The SM oil does the job pretty well.

If this machine had not been owned by a relative of Elias Howe, I would have probably re-japanned it.

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But...   above you said you used Orange Glo.  
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Yes, I did.  Now what part of the machine did I NOT cover on post #22?
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I see.  I plead having an unerring knack for detecting minor ambiguities, and usually assuming the wrong interpretation.

Since your answer to "What do you use to get the orange oil off? Does it dissolve rust? I've never heard of anyone using orange oil on a sewing machine" was a picture of a bottle of Orange Glo, I assumed you had, indeed, used Orange Glo on the metal and japanned parts.  But I guess you posted that picture to show that it's a furniture oil.

I feel like you've since said to me that you do use Orange Glo on machine heads.  Perhaps I'm misremembering, or misinterpreted that conversation too, but it's another reason I assumed you'd used it on this one.

So:  do you ever use Orange Glo on machine heads?

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Sorry, that was my bad.  My photo was to show that it said wood cleaner.  I must have been in a hurry that day not to at least circle it...Let alone reply to clarify after having my "fun".    My only excuse is that I have been in a lot of pain for a while now and it's beginning to wear through my veneer of civility.  I really do apologize and will try to make sure i review my posts for "mood effects" prior to posting. lol

With that said, I DO in fact occasionally use Orange Glo on some heads for the gunk removal. but in general only on the painted parts, as I can use Brasso on the metal bits and get more aggressive.  

Another surprising cleaner that is "generally" ok to use is Murphy's Oil Soap.  It is remarkably gentle (until it isn't) for wood and for japanning with hand painted art or decals.
(DISCLAIMER: ALWAYS test, ALWAYS let dry, ALWAYS test again, NEVER be in a hurry.)



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Steve, good point on the Murphy's oil soap.  I did use it on this head along with some other cleaners.  The paint work was not affected.  Here's the before & after:

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Thanks Steve.  And thanks for the tip on Murphy's.  I've used the Murphy's-and-steel-wool process on a cabinet with very old shellac, and that worked well.  I may test it on a couple of hand painted heads, just to see.

I do use Orange Glo on heads.  I'm not convinced it works better than SM oil, but it's much cheaper -- at least compared to the way I buy SM oil, which is in smallish bottles.

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