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Amatino

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Does anyone recognize this machine? All the plaques and identifying marks appear to have been removed, for some strange reason. The serial number is either F6484538 or 6484533, but Singer's database records don't show a number like that. The hubs thinks perhaps there is a separate database for industrial machines. Does anyone know of one?

TIA for any help.
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Hello,  I am almost certain that is a Singer 45k cylinder arm version.  We have a 45k1 flat bed from 1915 making it a ww1 machine.  The needles, bobbins, hooks are all available.  Needles are ordered as a dd214 and can be had in the usual variety of leather points and cloth sharps points.  Mine is a good machine.  They nickname the 45k1 in this country "caribou" after the water buffalo here.  It is only underfeed but with care is an incredible canvassing machine.  I replaced the hook assembly on mine and happy I did it.  It came generic out of China and I got lucky to get a really good supplier very high quality.  Likely the hook was the big fix on mine.  Picture of ours attached.  I also attached a picture of a factory full of them:  Best regards, Mike

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You are awesome! Thanks for the quick response!

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Mike beat me to it. I think you may not have scrolled down far enough in the F prefix serial numbers. F4684533 or 4538 is listed as a Singer 45K, one of a batch of 15,000 made between July and December, 1915. This would place your machine toward the end of the run. 

One could fantasize that this machine was made at a time when the UK was being supplied with a lot of canvas and leather gear being made for Army contracts due to World War 1. 

There is an interesting video of the 45K on Youtube. 



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Oh, this is fabulous! And you are absolutely correct, I didn't scroll down far enough. I have no idea why I stopped at six digits! The video is superb, thank you. The hubs is going to try to get this machine working tomorrow. We found a manual, after Mike identified it, and now at least he's going in with some idea of what he's doing. 

You guys are the best!
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Why is it that almost all videos of machines sewing leather show just one layer of leather being sewn?   Who, exactly, does that?  :-)
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Why is it that almost all videos of machines sewing leather show just one layer of leather being sewn?   Who, exactly, does that?  :-)


The only thing I can think of is decorative stitching, like on belts.

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Why is it that almost all videos of machines sewing leather show just one layer of leather being sewn?   Who, exactly, does that?  :-)


Harnesses, saddlery, belts, gun-belts and straps, leather straps for handbags... Almost anywhere a decorative edge is required. 

However, I do agree with you. For demonstrative purposes, multiple layers would be far more useful and/or impressive. 
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My first impression was the same - should have been two layers of leather, but then when I look at the video, I note that is a very big needle and a very thick piece of leather. It looks to me like it would have no trouble handling two layers. 

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Given that my skills are such that joining two pieces of anything together in a semi-attractive manner is an accomplishment, I never thought of decorative stitching, which should have been obvious.  Thanks!
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Hello group,  I think you got the first two digits backwards.  Nothing that starts with F4.6 million range is a 45K.  However there are two listings beginning with F6.4 million range that were 45k's made in 1915 and mine is the following serial number......less than 30 from your serial number assuming it begins with "F64".  Here is mine:  F6484576  and I often wondered about it being a ww1 machine making clothing for military in the U.K. as well but even later how it made it's way over here to the Philippines and it's later life after that.

Best regards,
Mike

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