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I believe this machine being offered locally is a Davis UF model. At least the decals appear to match.
That would date it to the mid nineteen teens... and even though the model initials UF might suggest Underfeed, from what I've read, it may not be?

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It's confusing, but it seems like maybe the UF model is a 'long shuttle' vertical feed,
and appears to take special 1x2 long needles? (how much longer than 15x1?)

If anyone can confirm this or knows better, or can point me to better references?
I'd sure appreciate it. Not often any Davis comes up for sale around here, they're asking $100.


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...  appears to take special 1x2 long needles? (how much longer than 15x1?)...


I can't help with any of the other info about this machine.  When I have a question about needle sizes I refer to http://ismacs.net/needle_and_shank/needle-cross-reference-charts.html  It appears length to eye is 8.5 mm longer to the eye and 11.1 mm longer to point.

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That machine is not a vertical feed.  It has a standard presser foot, from what I can see.  And it doesn't have the signature two-sided needle plate that the VFs have.

There's an identification page for the VF models here:  http://kelsew.info/davis/DavisVFmodels.html

But it only covers the VF Davis models, and perhaps sparsely at that.

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 Needlebar Wiki Davis has a list of all the aproximate 10 different Davis underfeed models. I can't reach it at this time but will try again later. This Davis is a model D.  The early ones used Davis long and the later 15x1.  The cut off is serial number is 1850000 according to Ismacs Needle List.  I guess this is a later one by the decals. Underfeed is a group of Davis models rather than one in particular.

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Jon, are you referring to http://needlebar.org/nbwiki/images/8/81/Davis001.jpg gotten to via http://needlebar.org/nbwiki/index.php/Davis#Davis_Underfeed_Model_Reference  ?

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Thank You.  Yes the models are at the bottom of the page.  I could add a few models that were made only for Sears.


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I think my eyes are going buggy. Thanks everyone. Pretty sure that difference in needle plate will nail this. Was really difficult to find a Davis with that flattened raised double spool pin thing going on, but perhaps (?) the circa 1924 Underfeed model D. (Doesn't have to be 1924) but that's the closest I have found, so far. Waiting on more pics. Thank you. everyone. Not sure I'm willing to pay that much for a very late underfeed, but we'll see.

If anyone has a later underfeed, and has used it, would love to have impressions.

davis561.jpeg 

Yeah! A pic of the front!


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Is that the shirring plate in the place of the front plate?

It might not be a total deal-breaker (did grab one of my Kenmores for cheap with the buttonhole gear plate in place and bought a parts machine plate for everyday use) but if it’s this uncommon already...
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Is that the shirring plate in the place of the front plate?

It might not be a total deal-breaker (did grab one of my Kenmores for cheap with the buttonhole gear plate in place and bought a parts machine plate for everyday use) but if it’s this uncommon already...


I agree. Perhaps not a deal breaker. The seller has two machines listed at once with a $200 dollar asking price and I can only assume he means 100 each. The other machine is a true centennial model Singer 128 in crinkle with black slide made in January of 1952 with the complete bent wood case and attachment box etc. That machine is worth more than 100. The Davis above appears to be a post 1920 underfeed model D. No complete case, haven't seen any attachments... not so pretty... I don't 'feel' it being a hundred dollar machine. Perhaps, if it's the later 15x1 needle machine... I dunno. It s odd, it's unusual and I do like the look and the swing out Hamilton Beach is cool. We'll see is all I'm wiling to say right now. But still... it is cool.

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