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My friend Kathy is in the envious position of having three of the round Boye needle cases. Stuck at home in April she decided to go through all of her tubes in an effort to fill one of the three.  It's close, but not quite there yet and she's been looking to acquire more tubes - with something in the tubes. So the goal isn't a Boye needle case with all the correct tubes in it, but a Boye needle case with all the correct tubes - and all the tubes are full. Sounds insane I know... but she's well past half way.

The question is... since we've all seen these cases, and sometimes there's tubes, and sometimes the tubes have something in them... would it be worth her while to continue this quest? Meaning is the whole worth considerably more than the parts? Has anyone ever seen a full Boye display? Is it more or less unheard of in collector's circles? If she eventually tossed up a full Boye display to auction as if it were nearly new... would there be any interest?

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I've been on a not-so-serious quest along these lines for a while now, ever since I kinda fell into buying a couple of cases.  I've bought two other cases on eBay (one was a 2-tier base with no stock), also bought lots that contained needles and shuttles on eBay.  The problem is trying to keep things to a reasonable cost.  Most people who get these cases at estate sales, etc, sell the individual tubes (needle and shuttle) separately and then sell the empty case.  They're always listing the individual tubes for fairly high prices.  For sellers, that's the way to make money.  For us collectors, it's difficult to put a complete case together at a reasonable price.  If money isn't a concern, it could be done easily, but that's not how I operate.  I'm still missing about 8 shuttles to complete my case.  One day it'll come.  I'm not in a hurry and if it never happens, that's okay, too.  I can tell you from selling a Boye case with some stock in it, you wouldn't get as much as if you were willing to sell each tube individually.  But, that takes time and serious dedication to selling. 

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Steve and Ericka thank you both. The idea of filling a case was all hers and she seems set to do it. I do realize that parting it out would have a value, but a full case would certainly draw some attention. It's a bit like the difference between those of us that will buy and old machine and restore it, and those that buy an old machine to strip it for parts, I can't say which is the wiser, but I do enjoy my old machines. =)

Kathy has now sent me another quandry:

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According to her case photos... (she has three) there are two different number 15 shuttles?

Any thoughts are most welcome


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Hi Jim,

Top photo is the old Boye system and the bottom is the new.  Please advise to keep the needle contents honest.  Most future collectors wouldn't know the difference but those that do might be a little upset ;>[wink]

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Yeah, I didn't buy any of the Boye cases to resell and make money.  A couple just kinda came my way and then I was on to seeing about getting a full one.  The one case that I've sold, I sold with partial contents and hopefully somebody else has a case that they can enjoy with a number of things in it.

Boye, for some unknown reason, changed their numbering system in the round metal cases between Early 1906/1907 and Late 1906-1907.  There was a great article on the NeedleBar site that's still available titled "Boye oh Boye" and goes over all the various commodity cases and also has a chart that shows the two different numbering systems side-by-side.  And there's more Boye info on Ismacs, I think, but it doesn't show the differences between those two very similar round metal cases.  I don't know that I can just copy the NeedleBar info here since it is marked as Copyrighted 2007 2008.  But maybe you can do a google search and find it?  Or, if someone tells me it's okay to post here, then I will.

Anyway, that's the reason for the difference.  And there really is no good reason.
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Or, if someone tells me it's okay to post here, then I will.


It's always okay to post a link to a copyrighted page.

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Here is the link to "Boye Oh Boye" http://needlebar.org/main/boye/index.html

Just a FYI the "Known Boye Case Markings" is near the bottom as is the table for the different numbering systems.

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Thanks for posting the link, Janey.  Do you know if people who aren't/weren't members of NeedleBar can access that article?  That's the reason why I was thinking of posting some of the info here, but if anyone can access it, that's even better.  It's such a shame that so much has been lost from the NeedleBar site, especially the picture library.  I used that SO much.

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Thanks for posting the link, Janey.  Do you know if people who aren't/weren't members of NeedleBar can access that article?  That's the reason why I was thinking of posting some of the info here, but if anyone can access it, that's even better.  It's such a shame that so much has been lost from the NeedleBar site, especially the picture library.  I used that SO much.

Ericka


Yes, the article is accessible to non-members.  From my understanding the 'discussions' are not available.  I am not, nor have I ever been a member.  I do like to research stuff and frequently search site specific.  I and many others rrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaallllllllyyyyyy miss the picture library.

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Yes, I can see it, and have never been a member.
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I also have three Boye needle dispensers and take Erika's approach to adding to the contents.  Not just having something in the tubes is good enough for me.  After 100 years ,the contents of any particular tube may be just about anything but the correct needle for the tube number.  Some tubes are filled with hand sewing needles, while others may have two or three different sewing machine needles.  I enjoy the time spent with digital calipers and needle dimension charts, to identify and correctly  locate the needles. 
     We collectors should set up a swap system, as I have spaces in the dispensers yet to be filled. 
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We collectors should set up a swap system, as I have spaces in the dispensers yet to be filled. 
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Yes, we should, because I have extra needles in cases and need just a few shuttles in cases.  I've also got a whole 'nother case with some contents that I need to sell but just haven't had the time or energy to do it.

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