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kndpakes

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Paul asked me to see if the shuttles of my American No 1 machines that are just a little older and newer than his mystery machine looked interchangeable.

I looked at shuttles of all my American machines and took photos. It looks to me like the No 1, No 2 and No 5 would all be interchangeable. The No 7 is larger.

I thought this info might be of interest to others looking for these elusive shuttles, so here is a combo photo showing different views of the shuttles. No 2 and No 5 look like they have been repaired at some point, so their shapes are not quite identical to the others in the last view.

Kelly in PA

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Kelly...Did you say...ALL of your Americans??  I LOVE Americans!  I have a #1 and an American Gem.  Could you post pics of your Americans?  Pleeeeeeeze?
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LOL, I love them, too, and they are part of my "Made in Pennsylvania" collection. The older, more primitive machines of any brand are my favorites.

Here's the early No 1:
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Hmm, I could not figure out how to continue the post after that second photo. Here's the later No 1. Pictures in the driveway are always of arrival day, so the machine is grungy.

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No 2 head (spool pin got bent during shipping):

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No 5 treadle. This one has a bad repaint job and the table is split and has multiple repairs underneath to hold it together. You cant see it in the photo, but there are brush marks in the paint. The main thing of interest is we got it home from Ohio in a Mustang convertible along with a week's worth of luggage! The last photo is what it looked like before we started wrapping everything in cardboard and taping like crazy. I don't remember what the red arrow is about, so ignore that.


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Nice collection of Americans! And thank you for the pics of the shuttles.
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Lovely set of Americans!  The photo of the shuttles is excellent. Thanks for posting it.
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American Shuttles have been superseded by SpaceX...

{SORRY!} 😃

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Hey, look what I found in my Boye Guide.  Not sure if it helps you or not, but here's a pic:
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Ericka, interesting that they just have No 1 and No 7. We know No 1,2, and 5 are the same - maybe this means all up to No 7 are the same. 

Has anybody ever seen an American 3 or 4? No 8 is a hand crank and I think I have seen No 6 as both a treadle and hand crank. 

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NICE collection of Americans, Kelly!  Is the #2 smaller or is it just the picture angle?  I narrowly missed getting a #2 a few years back and still regret not bidding just a bit higher.....My "American dream" would be to own the #8 (hand crank).   Thanks for posting your pics!
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Hilltophomesteader, thanks! The No 2 is actually a little bit bigger than the No 1, the bed is maybe an inch bigger each direction.

I would love to find a No 8, also!

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My #1 next to my #2
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Anyone have bed dimensions handy for the #1 and #2?  Just wondering which one my "model M" is more similar to.

That Boyes catalog is definitely a nice confirmation that the earlier shuttles are all the same (externally, at least).

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Is there a digital copy of this Boye Guide available? I have searched the Internet a few times trying to find one and have come up empty so far...
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Is there a digital copy of this Boye Guide available? I have searched the Internet a few times trying to find one and have come up empty so far...
Darin

Unfortunately, no.  At least, not that I've found and I've looked, too.  The one I have is not dated and I've been wanting to scan it for a while now so that I can share it, but it's a LOT of pages.  I just scanned a small Singer Salesman's Catalogue of Attachments yesterday and it took me several hours.  So, eventually, I'll get to it, just not looking forward to it.

And there are other Boye "guides" out there from different years.  I saw a few pics that someone posted on the NeedleBar site that called that booklet "Sewing Machine Supply Catalogue for all Makes of Machines", published by the Boye Needle Co.  That one is older than mine since it shows the box that contained needles only.  My Guide doesn't show that box, just the round commodity case that you normally find.

And I have another sewing machine supply catalog from another vendor that shows the same two American shuttles, along with the bobbins that go in them.  It's not dated, either, and it's bigger than the Boye Guide....

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Here is a Free reference on the Smithsonian site:
https://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollections/Trade-Literature/Sewing-Machines/SIL/0773/index.htm

I also have scans of a Barker catalog, but I don't remember where I downloaded them from. You could try googling for that. They both have the same 2 American shuttles that Ericka posted.

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Oh, nice, Kelly.  That would be easy to download.
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My #1 next to my #2
American 2 vs 1 compare_004.jpg 


Are you missing the front slide plate on the #2?  It seems like I have an extra slide plate that looks right, but is too big for my #1, if I'm remembering right.  In that dratted Dry Box still, of course.  I'm horrible at remembering stuff, but remind me in a couple months and I may be able to look for it and see.

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