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I just don't have space to display this lovely machine.

It's in very good shape, fully cleaned, sews well.  Lots and lots of pictures, and description, if you follow this link:

https://www.foxharp.net/Singer_New_Family/

Currently asking $250, but very open to offers.

Machine is in Boston, MA.

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I just don't have space to display this lovely machine.

It's in very good shape, fully cleaned, sews well.  Lots and lots of pictures, and description, if you follow this link:

https://www.foxharp.net/Singer_New_Family/

Currently asking $250, but very open to offers.

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Where do you live?  This is awesome.

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Oops.  I'm in Arlington, MA, barely outside of Boston.  I've edited the original post to add this.   Tell all your New English friends!  [smile]

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If I did not already have that model in MOP as well as a known history, I would be ALL over that one.  Beautiful!!  and Underpriced!

I love the add on porcelain wheels!

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Yeah, the wheels are cool.  When I bought it, and asked the seller if they'd mind helping me carry it from their garage to my van, she said "Oh no -- it has wheels -- we don't need to lift it!".   Picturing them rolling down the cracked asphault driveway I allowed as how they were almost 150 years old, I'd rather not.  :-)   She also told me that when she'd bought the machine at an estate sale, she was planning on just making a table out of the base.  (!!!)  But a friend who knew something about antiques had persuaded her not to.  (whew!)

Re: the price -- I think there's really very little market for old machines in this area.  This one, my Howe, my W&W no.8, and my recent W&G treadle were all very inexpensive.  And all had been advertised for many weeks by the time I noticed them.  Have you talked to Mike (Wolfegang's) about this?  I wonder what he thinks about the New England market.  Of course, he's selling a more polished product (literally!).

We drive to NJ relatively regularly, and I could see swinging out as far as eastern PA or NY with the machine if someone wanted to set up a Pony express of some sort.  But I can't see myself shipping it.

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I love this one so much! Wish I lived at all close.
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This machine is no longer for sale.   (I still own it -- decided to keep it.)
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I found a 1886 model with the bobbin wonder on the table and I love it!!! Sews like a dream
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Hi Paul

Thanks for all the great info on your NF which I just discovered. I think I have its sister--also an 1871 in exactly the same folding coffin top table. I found it many years ago before I discovered an interest in vintage machines and bought it just because I thought it was so beautiful. It has the original shuttle and bobbin. I had it serviced by an old technician (he was in his late 80s in the 1980s) and my late mother could make it sew beautifully, and although she left me with lots of notes on threading etc., I've never attempted it. Until I recently found the 1906 27 with pheasant decals, Maud the New Family was my only treadle. She remains the matriarch of the collection.

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Wow -- what a beauty!  That's really lovely.  I think I thought that the very rough MOP on mine was due to lack of cutting techniques for MOP at the time, but your machine clearly shows that, at least for luxury models :-), they could do better even then.

And thank you for making me look at my two NF pages again: the blog section and the for-sale page.  I should add some of the for-sale pictures to the blog.  No sense in wasting all those glamor shots!  The head still lives on its display base in my livingroom, because of all the treadles I have, that's the one I can least afford the space for.

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I have a lovely walnut folding top drawing room cabinet which came with a New Family machine which is missing most of the MOP. The belt guard on the machine is different from my other New Family machines.
I'm looking for a pretty New Family for a beautiful cabinet.
-Phyllis in Iowa

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Paul, complete newbie to this forum here. Do you still have your machine? I just bought one almost identical and in the same treadle table from a guy in Atlanta who found it in the house he bought. My sister picked it up, took the treadle and table all apart and is shipping it to me in Alaska. I cannot wait to get it! Praying it survives the trip with no damage.

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Andrew, the scrolling and mother of pearl on your machine are just gorgeous. Mine is an 1871 also, serial number 663463. It is very plain, no gold left anywhere, and just a shadow of the pattern on the belt cover hinge. It has the same mop pattern as Paul's with maybe half missing. I've never seen one in real life. My sister tells me its tiny!
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Congrats on your new (hopefully intact ;-) machine, and welcome to the forum!  I do still have my New Family.  I decided that selling one of my oldest and prettiest machines was silly, even if I do keep the head on a display base, and the treadle in the cellar.

Can I ask how your machine and treadle are being shipped?  I'm curious about both the packing process, and who you're using.  I've been looking at shipping a treadle recently, and it's a bit daunting.

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Andrew, the scrolling and mother of pearl on your machine are just gorgeous. Mine is an 1871 also, serial number 663463. It is very plain, no gold left anywhere, and just a shadow of the pattern on the belt cover hinge. It has the same mop pattern as Paul's with maybe half missing. I've never seen one in real life. My sister tells me its tiny!


Hi Molly

Welcome to the group!

I think you are going to love your New Family. They are surprisingly tiny when compared to even the later 3/4 Singers. Mine came with a bit of interesting stuff in the drawer but no manual. However, once it had a basic oiling and a new belt my late mother got it to just purr along. Someone gave me at the time a photocopy --yup, it was that long ago--of the manual for the Singer 12K but there were subtle differences including lack of a stop motion clutch (at least on my NF) and the shuttle/bobbin case is different having none of those little holes in the side to regulate tension. It works just fine though. Steve has posted an original manual for the NF on the forum and that's a big help if you are planning to use it. I have to confess mine is not a machine that's actually been in use for a long time. I just admire it 😊

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Paul, my solution won't help you, I'm afraid. I tried to ship it myself, and the best price I got was $865 to Alaska through FedEx. [eek] But thankfully I work for a company that brings product up from the lower 48 for their store. The owners are allowing me to add it to a shipment at cost, so that is making it realistic for me to do it. It will go FedEx ground from Alabama to Illinois and then be put on a truck and barge from there. The shipping is more than the cost of the machine and treadle, but high shipping is pretty much a fact of life for us here and I really wanted the sewing machine. [smile]

My other solution was going to be to ship it to a relative on the west coast who we will be visiting in a few months. I was thinking I would bring the iron and wood back as luggage, with the head in a carry-on. Hadn't checked yet to see if they would allow a sewing machine on the aircraft, but I was able to bring a mantel clock back in my carry on a few years ago so might have worked. (I also brought up a Singer 603E in a suitcase a while back with the help of my daughter, who is a self taught expert at packing fragile stuff for shipment, and it came through unscathed.)

My sister took the NF treadle and case apart so it could be shipped flat and was able to find u-haul boxes that fit. She has the iron in one box, wood in another, and the head packed in one box inside another bigger box with several inches of foam around each side. She tried spray foam from home depot in plastic bags, but apparently it won't cure fast without air, so she wound up wrapping the head in plastic and then covering the outside with spray foam, and then I think she trimmed it to fit in the boxes. When I get it I'll have the fun of chiseling it out of the foam block. I hope the packing is enough--it will go through a lot of hands on the way. I won't know for a while how it does as it could take up to a month to get here. I am anxious for it to arrive and not feeling at all patient about it.  [smile]

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I just had another treadle base (iron only, Ebay) shipped up for another of my machines (before I spotted the NF). The seller was quite creative with that. She took a big piece of molded styrofoam packing from an appliance or TV or something, laid a leg on that, flattened cardboard boxes on that, the other leg, more cardboard, the middle brace, more cardboard, and then the smaller pieces wrapped in thin foam sheets, with a couple final layers of cardboard. Then just wrapped the whole sandwich thoroughly in pallet wrap and sent it off. And it arrived completely undamaged! I was amazed and impressed.

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I think you are going to love your New Family. They are surprisingly tiny when compared to even the later 3/4 Singers. Mine came with a bit of interesting stuff in the drawer but no manual. However, once it had a basic oiling and a new belt my late mother got it to just purr along. Someone gave me at the time a photocopy --yup, it was that long ago--of the manual for the Singer 12K but there were subtle differences including lack of a stop motion clutch (at least on my NF) and the shuttle/bobbin case is different having none of those little holes in the side to regulate tension. It works just fine though. Steve has posted an original manual for the NF on the forum and that's a big help if you are planning to use it. I have to confess mine is not a machine that's actually been in use for a long time. I just admire it 😊


Andrew, thanks! I will look for the manual. It's funny, I wasn't even a bit interested in a new family until I saw this one. It was the cabinet that grabbed me. I had just seen a youtube video with a guy showing his NF in a folding cabinet, which I had never seen before, and then a few days later I was helping my mom get my great grandmother's old 27 treadle running, and she mentioned that they used to make cabinets with folding lids for treadle machines. Then up pops this NF in a folding lid treadle just a few hours from my sister, so I called in all my favors and got her to drive up and get it. And now that I have an NF, even though I haven't actually seen it, I am smitten! Can't wait to get my hands on it and get it running again. I definately want to use it. Probably mostly for quilts.

When they were loading the machine into my sister's car they had to tip it on it's side. Neither my sis or the owner had noticed that it had a drawer, and things started raining out! She sent me a photo of all the wonderful little drawer bits. I recognize many things, but I want to post the photo and see if any of you can tell me what some of the mystery items are.

The stop motion clutch is something I wanted to ask you all about. Is it supposed to have one? Mine doesn't have one. I've found pictures of them with a clutch but yours doesn't have one? And I see that Paul's doesn't either so now I don't know. 

Here is a pic of my new obsession. I typed her serial number wrong, its actually 633463. She's a bit rough but I think she'll clean up nicely...

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Am I doing the photos right for this forum? They seem huge! Maybe I better go back and check the guidelines...
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mollyzin, unless you have some kind of photo storage program, or keep them in a 'cloud', they come out big, at least mine does. The small ones that you see here and there, are klickable to view them in a larger size.

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Hi Molly -- your pictures are fine. I've tried for a couple of years to figure out why they're big sometimes, and small others, even though they're about the same size when downloaded. I tend to use "Attach files", and then "Insert inline" if I want to intersperse them with the text, and they seem to be reliably small before clicking, but it could be luck.  I'd like to say "It's a mystery", but the programmer in me says "That's buggy software".

It looks like your sister did a great job packing your NF! It'll be fine, I'm sure. And your other treadle's packing makes me feel better about some of the ideas I've had. ;-)

I don't know when the clutch was introduced. It might have been with the transition from "New Family" to "Model 12" (i.e., at the same time the tension control moved), but that's just guessing.

Lack of floor space means I keep my NF on a display base, with the treadle stored elsewhere, so I rarely get to play with the treadle top. It's a cool thing, though. I also don't get to sew with the NF very often as a result, which is too bad. On most of my machines with decoration remaining on the bed I worry about using them, but I think the MOP is sturdy enough to hold up.

I'd sort of forgotten that the for-sale web page was still up. There are more/different pictures of my machine on my blog. https://projects.foxharp.net/sewing_machines/#1871-singer-new-family


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When they were loading the machine into my sister's car they had to tip it on it's side. Neither my sis or the owner had noticed that it had a drawer, and things started raining out! She sent me a photo of all the wonderful little drawer bits. I recognize many things, but I want to post the photo and see if any of you can tell me what some of the mystery items are. 



But where are the bits???!!!  I love mystery items and have been trying to figure out what originally came with some of these machines.  We want more pics!!!!!

Ericka lol
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