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Ihadanidea, go for it! There is so much potential in 3D printing.
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My son is going to give it a shot. I’m a bit nervous about pulling the mechanics apart enough to remove it, but, well, I probably can’t make it worse.

Probably.

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Just take pictures as you go. Looking forward to your successes!
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So I want to start working on getting my grandmother's 27 back to looking a wee bit better. There is a lot of silvering but that just shows how much it was used over the last 112 years.

When I took the pin cloth off I found layers of adhesive tape. Yes, really. So any ideas on how to get the rest of the sticky bits off without causing any damage?
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You can use spray and wash for removing stains before washing clothes. It will take a while but will remove the sticky without harming the decals or machine.
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You can use spray and wash for removing stains before washing clothes. It will take a while but will remove the sticky without harming the decals or machine.


That I would never have thought of. I will certainly try it. I don't think my grandmother ever really cleaned it and while I have used it, I certainly haven't done much to it so it's time to do a deconstruct and get the chrome at least all shiny again.

I decided I had to get the pin fabric off. It was partially hanging off anyway. And I was surprised to see the adhesive tape. It's been there for a while.
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You can use spray and wash for removing stains before washing clothes. It will take a while but will remove the sticky without harming the decals or machine.

Thank you! I have remnants of the same kind of tape on the bed of my FW and nothing I've tried so far has worked.

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We have something here called 'Sticky Stuff Remover', that I use for removing labels from pretty jars for jam, marmalade, jelly making etc. I wonder if this would work? I have a feeling that it is made in the US.
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I just looked it up and says it is safe even for hair. So it might work. I don’t want to take off any more of the decals if i can. It’s a well loved machine.
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We have Goo Gone, which is basically lighter fluid. Probably NOT safe.
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Correct.  Spray n Wash is TOTALLY different.
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If preserving decals is the issue, then shouldn't the primary question be, "Does the cleaning product contain any water?"  The reason people use things like kerosene and simple sewing machine oil is because they're safe for decals.  I'm surprised that something like Spray 'n Wash is safe -- surely it contains water, and maybe even soap?  

The MSDS for Goo Gone lists citrus extracts as well as petroleum distillates in the active ingredients.  I'd want to do some careful testing before trying it on a sewing machine.  https://googone.com/sds/ 

(I'm new at all of this, but I feel like I'm just repeating what I've learned on this forum.  I'm willing to be told I'm wrong.)

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We have Goo Gone, which is basically lighter fluid. Probably NOT safe.


I figured it wasn’t safe either.
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I use lighter fluid often for softening and removing sticky adhesives.  It works very well and I haven't damaged anything yet.
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SO I've been working on the chrome parts and most have done really well. The back plate on the 27 isn't so much. I got the rust off but it looks like possibly the chrome is too damaged for more work. Polishing doens't seem to be doing much. I hojpe you can see where there seems to be crud - rough and was actually black rather than rusty. It doens't want to polish out. Should I just call it a day and put it back on as is? The machine is not pretty but it was my grandmothers and runs really well so no big deal.

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Here it was on the evaporust bath. You can see the black areas which are the rough areas in the top picture.
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At this point I would use some steel wool to smooth the roughness on the round plate. I lose a bit of relief, but  that is OK with me.
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0000 size steel wool?
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I never buy anything but 0000.  It's pretty safe for chrome or nickel.

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I will Give steel wool a try. I just think I might actually have some.
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The needle plates turned out really well.

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yep 0000
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That I would never have thought of. I will certainly try it. I don't think my grandmother ever really cleaned it and while I have used it, I certainly haven't done much to it so it's time to do a deconstruct and get the chrome at least all shiny again.

I decided I had to get the pin fabric off. It was partially hanging off anyway. And I was surprised to see the adhesive tape. It's been there for a while.

Olive oil would work to get the adhesive off.
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Thank you. I will try that too. The next big thing is to get the bobbin winder off. The screw is not budging so I need some penetrating oil for that.
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I have not seen this specifically addressed yet, but how do you remove the black stains that often accumulate over the decals on old machines? It is usually present around the head, or around where the motor sits. Here is an example:
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I don't know how this happens, but I have never been able to successfully clean it off without damaging the decals underneath.. 
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Sewing machine oil and lots of patience. I've personally had good luck with TR3, but if the clear coat is compromised, as in crackled or flaking, the TR3 will take it off. I haven't had it harm decals, but I'm very careful in those areas. And, it takes 47,652 cotton balls.

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I can’t find TR3 locally. Anybody seen ia place that carries it?
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Miriam I bought mine at either Auto Zone or O'Reilly Auto Parts. Amazon also carries it.

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Nothing local...
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http://www.bluemagicusa.com/where-to-buy/ Looks like there are several Advance Auto Parts stores near you. Pep Boys, too. I see True Value is supposed to carry their products and I was thinking I may have seen it at Ace hardware. I haven't been in the auto section of a Walmart lately, but they might carry TR3.

Good luck.

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Janey I did a quick search of Walmart.com this morning and they don't carry it but one of their partner vendors does.

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So can it be ordered at Walmart? I’ve been everywhere.
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Yesterday on Walmart.com it was there as a single can and as a 6 can lot(for $50). Today it's only showing the 6 can lot, but that same vendor sells on Amazon so you can probably get it from Amazon.

Cari

It's on Ebay too. A little on the spendy side but you get free shipping!

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I try real hard to shop local
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I try real hard to shop local


Me too, as much as I can. But I'm to the point where I no longer enjoy running all over town looking for something. You have no idea how happy I was the other day when I found preemie clothes and diapers at Target, the only stop we were making before heading to see the baby. I had no idea any local store would have them, I thought for sure I was gonna have to computer shop for those things.

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We find that our local auto parts store are really good about ordering.
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All I have near me, well 40 min away, is a Walmart and a Joann’s.
Slim pickings, but our Walmart has been useless. I try to shop
local, as well. At the point where burning all that gasoline looking
for something that does not exist locally is non productive use of
my time and another hit to the atmosphere. Seems I always have
to order on line. Now I start there.
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I look for it when I am already in a place that might remotely stock it.
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I got a free off of FB-Marketplace Singer 99 from the '50's with the backstitch function. It belonged to the grandmother of the "Marketplace lister" and was stored in a garage where moisture got to it and rusted the hook, bobbin case area. The hand wheel will not turn.

Where should I start trying to free up the hand wheel and hook? Soak everything in kerosene?Disassembly with penetrating oil and soak in Evaporust? All of the above?

I am on vacation at the beach until tomorrow and can post pics upon return. I am looking for suggestions on where to start with a "basketcase" such as this.


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