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redH

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I have a Singer 28 that needs a shuttle. I have a later 128 but that shuttle doesn't fit in the carrier-it has a metal finger sticking up from the middle. Googling didn't help either. There's a post here about the various VS's but it still doesn't get me to a shuttle.

And what did this bracket under the wheel and to the back support? (Assuming I manage to attach the pictures!) This machine must have started as a handcrank  or a treadle and the bracket makes no sense to me! Thanks for any and all help!

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That bracket is the motor mount.
Image result for Singer swingaway motor

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That makes sense-what a neat-o swing around motor! And I was thinking sewing machines wouldn't have been electrified that early. Of course, it could have been a later addition too. (I also have a White Family Rotary that has an added Singer(!) motor just bolted onto the machine body for a very direct drive.)

Thanks for the info! 
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Just for fun: There were electric sewing machines by 1918. Western Electric led the way in the domestic market. Singer, however, did not have electric sewing machines until 1920. In 1920 they introduced the model 101 - a designed to be electric only machine, but Singer also 'gave in' to the innovative inventors of the time in 1920 and sold a kit to 'electrify' your old treadle/hand crank machine. These kits included a motor and a wrap around the post clamp to hold the motor. Several sewing companies offered such a kit. Today... those clamp kits are not easy to find. Don't part with it. I know that doesn't help your shuttle problem... but it's way cool. =)
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That bracket is the motor mount.
Image result for Singer swingaway motor


And that motor is the 'weird' Singer motor I put into the Lg Flat Rate Box that I just shipped to Madmurdock75, lol!

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I have a Singer 28 that needs a shuttle. I have a later 128 but that shuttle doesn't fit in the carrier-it has a metal finger sticking up from the middle. Googling didn't help either. There's a post here about the various VS's but it still doesn't get me to a shuttle.]

It should take a Singer 8301 shuttle....like this one on Ebay:
(I just checked the one in my Singer 28 and it was this one..)



VINTAGE SINGER TREADLE SEWING MACHINE SHUTTLE 8301 & 1 BOBBIN

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And that motor is the 'weird' Singer motor I put into the Lg Flat Rate Box that I just shipped to Madmurdock75, lol!


Oh my god I LOVE those motors! I didn't even know! I'm so excited there aren't enough exclamation points!!!!!! 😃

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Oh my god I LOVE those motors! I didn't even know! I'm so excited there aren't enough exclamation points!!!!!! 😃


Lol.[biggrin]

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Singer had an electric platform since 1886. There were no electrical standards at the time and Singer's platform was the irons, actuator (controler), sewing machine and what ever motor your local "electrician" could install for your grid. Singer also could provide you with a Deihl motor built on the Singer lot in Elizabethport. Deihl was Singer's in house electronics. Other motors were made with the same patent by other manufactures, commonly referred to as "the pancake motor" . Manufactures like Edison, Bissel and others. You could say Singer indirectly held the electric motor patents world wide British Commonwealth, Germany, France, U.S.A. It is also eluded to in the patent for the engine that it was the first of it's type applied for, being an idea for an engine and not a specific model. This also proves that Singer was the first to have an intellectual patent issued, Oct. 16th, 1886.

I Did a write up on this for ISMACS a while back, don't remember the issue number. That engine was in use on other items as late as 1920 from Deihl electric.

I have an early Singer electric conversion controler. It attaches to the back of the treadle to the left of the Singer logo on the middle brace. Using the same metal type singer pitman arm, there is a small hole to be drilled in the tread of the arm that goes into the attachment to drive the belt wheel, so that a treadle belt clasp can attach the pitman to the controler at the back of the middle brace. This is Simanco part number 192825 here IMG_0447.jpg 

This is the usual controler for the br7 motor IMG_0448.jpg 

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Thanks for all the info! I keep thinking electrification happened later than it did.  And thanks to Hilltophomesteader I've ordered a shuttle! (I went for a contemporary non-singer. I may be sorry.)

So, does anyone have a use for a motor mount? I'm going to use the machine as a handcrank and the mount will just be stored and languishing. I'll post it eventually in the "For Sale" section if it gets looked over here.

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