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Oh, the anvils are downstairs.  It's my lead pipe collection I'm worried about now!
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I sold a 206 - it was a heavy beast. I acquired an aluminum one. Anybody know what years they were made? Were they iron one year and aluminum the next or did they kind of mix them up? I'm liking that aluminum machine a lot.
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This is not fair.   I've wanted a 206, either metal, since I learned they exist, but have not been able to score one.  I think I'm gonna cry ... [bawl]

Doesn't ISMACS list the aluminum and iron versions?

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If memory serves, the serial numbers records mention in the right-hand column if aluminum. I suspect, however, that this information is of uncertain reliability. 
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Yes they do have on there if it was aluminum but I can't figure out if they made the same all year or if they started in iron and went to aluminum more went back and forth in the same years.. The aluminum one is very nice.
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My new best friend: SINGER 403A, nicknamed Morrison (name written under bed)  I think the previous owner must have been a seamstress.  I purchased, for 65 the machine in a cabinet, for an extra 30 I bought a 3 drawer container with bobbins and thread galore, accessories, fashion discs, manuals, oils and lubricants, brushes...you name it.  She took VERY good care of this machine.  LUCKY LUCKY LUCKY



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Removed from cabinet to do some portable pillow patching. 


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Congratulations on your 403; the whole series (401, 403 and 404) are terrific machines. 

I've found they respond well to an occasional oiling.

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Now I see the difference between the 401 and the 403 - your dashboard is much less complicated!  My 401 makes great deco stitches, and I'm sure your 403 does as well.  Congrats on a first class buy!
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The 404 is a terrific straight-stitch machine, by the way. The beautiful black-and-gold Singers overshadow them, but a dinged-up 404 is a useful workhorse.
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Now I see the difference between the 401 and the 403 - your dashboard is much less complicated!  My 401 makes great deco stitches, and I'm sure your 403 does as well.  Congrats on a first class buy!

From using them side by side, I much prefer the 403. The 403 will make the same stitches if you have the cams. The 403 stitch width can be adjusted. If you want that on the 401 you have to buy all the disks anyway. The 403 is much easier to maintain. Just my 2 cents.

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Jordan,

You'll love the 403A.  The more you use it, the more you will love it!  My son bought one for me at Goodwill Store for $41.  Of course, it had no cabinet, but I had 2 boxes of slant-shank attachments and a few other things, too.  I've been pretty lucky in buying some top hat cams and some other attachments, including a ruffler for minimum costs.  I love my 403A, and I'd fight for that machine!

By the way, I think I missed welcoming you on board.  Glad to have you here!

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To Miriam (and anyone else with experience on BOTH the 401 and 403):

Do you find the 403 to be faster and/or more responsive than the 401? I love my 401, but when I look under the cover I'm amazed at how much metal is involved with the cam stack and all the bits attached to it. That's a lot of metal being turned by the motor! I have never taken a 401 apart, but there must be at least a pound of steel turning all the time, even when straight stitching. Does all that steel slow the machine down, relative to a 403?


I also have a 404, which is one of my favorite machines, but I've yet to put the 404 and 401 on the bench and break out my vintage Craftsman RPM gauge to compare their motor speeds.

And I agree with James - the 404 rocks! What an understated masterpiece, although I also feel the siren call of the 301, what with the adorable handle, and it being lighter etc.



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Welcome Brian!

If you get a chance head over to the introduction thread and let us know a little bit about yourself!

BTW - The Victorian Sweatshop is less than 5 miles from the center of Oakland

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Everyone here knows my opinion of the 401 so I won't comment on it. I've never had a 403 so can't comment on it. But I do have a 404 and a couple of 301s. I much prefer the 301s. I'd sell the 404 in a heartbeat after I get it to quit throwing occasional thread tantrums but I can't because of the promise I made to the lady who gave it to me.

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gentle reminder - this is the "post your pictures of your machine here" thread.
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Here's a 404 of mine:
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And here's mine:
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Everyone here knows my opinion of the 401 so I won't comment on it.
Cari


Not everyone. I assume it's not good; could you indulge me and tell me why? My go-to 401 is pictured below. 

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The 401/500 just aren't my favorite machines. I don't have a negative opinion of them I know they're great machines, I'm just not a Singer gal for the most part and don't bond with these two. I buy them when I find them cheap and flip them.

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I have many Singers in my collection.  There are things about each of them that I like and also dislike.  The 400 series and 500 series with internal cam stacks have been notorious for sticking/gumming up.  If oiled meticulously and kept in use, they're great machines.  Let them sit for a bit and they can get sticky.  If I'm going to use 'fancy stitches', I prefer to use the machines (306, 319, 328)  with external cams.  Just my personal experience/opinion, of course.
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I have many Singers in my collection.  There are things about each of them that I like and also dislike.  The 400 series and 500 series with internal cam stacks have been notorious for sticking/gumming up.  If oiled meticulously and kept in use, they're great machines.  Let them sit for a bit and they can get sticky.  If I'm going to use 'fancy stitches', I prefer to use the machines (306, 319, 328)  with external cams.  Just my personal experience/opinion, of course.

Then you would like the 403 & 503

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Well, I just agreed to buy another machine.

Interesting that is does not have the needle plate OR slide plates, but it does have the Shuttle!!!

We THINK that this is an unusual Gold Medal variant.  Not sure though.

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An interesting looking machine! I'll enjoy watching the clean-up process!
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Can't wait to see what you do with that one.  So do you just keep looking for the plate or make one?  Very nice.
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it will need a needle plate and a pair of slides.  I can easily make those.
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I actually needed to google that. It sure looks very interesting and like you got yourself another gem.

I'm curious to see how you will clean it up.


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I actually needed to google that. It sure looks very interesting and like you got yourself another gem. I'm curious to see how you will clean it up.


It would be very interesting if someone could find ANY information on a model like this.  Neither myself , nor Mike at Wolfegangs can find a representative copy of this anywhere.

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OMG! Best IF I've ever seen by a long shot. Never knew Singer made a MOP IF.

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That's a gorgeous machine.
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Steve, I've seen (haven't the slightest clue where -- you know, when one gets older the memory just "ain't what it used to be") a picture of a machine with at least a similar profile.  I'm sure you'll do just fine with this one!  Congratulations!
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Brian,

I've got a 403 which my son bought for me from the GW Store locally for $41.  It hadn't had much use and it was so clean inside, it was incredible.  The 403 runs as fast as anyone could ask for.  It has plenty of power and is fast even with the external top hat cams -- I love it and I use it frequently.  I do drop a little oil in it even during periods when I've not used it very often, then run it a little bit.  I sure don't want anything to go wrong with it, even with a resident SM mechanic available.  I've done a lot of things on the 403 and I have NO problems with it (except an occasional operator error).

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Steve, I've seen (haven't the slightest clue where -- you know, when one gets older the memory just "ain't what it used to be") a picture of a machine with at least a similar profile.  I'm sure you'll do just fine with this one!  Congratulations!


Ok, so look at the top pictures bed shape, then look at the last pic's bed shape

The top tension is different, and so is the take up, but the bed is weird...

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Looks like they tried breeding the first two and the last one is their offspring. No marks on it, eh? Have you tried dusting it with flour or chalk dust (just a little) to see if anything shows up?
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It would be very interesting if someone could find ANY information on a model like this.  Neither myself , nor Mike at Wolfegangs can find a representative copy of this anywhere.


Sorry can't help with that. Didn't even know the company itself as I'm not that deep into the early american makers, I admit that.
But I can relate to your curiousity. I really hate that in these times of constantly growing knowledge (and we as humankind never knew more than today), loose at the same time so much knowledge. This is history that is falling dark.

Regarding the machine .... Wouldn't it also be possible that this was made by a foreign company trying to copy the Gold Medal machines? I mean those were the wild times if you know what I mean.


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Just picked this one up for free today. Obviously this picture is as I received it. Lots of cleaning and oiling in my future. The cabinet needs some work as well. 

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That looks like it has a lot of potential DKuehn. Good score!
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That Martha Washington cabinet is one of my favorites.  I have my Mom's old White rotary in it now. 
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Looks like a cookie.
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That machine looks like it is in great condition, much better than a lot I have seen and it isn't even cleaned up yet, great deal!
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Just picked this one up for free today. Obviously this picture is as I received it. Lots of cleaning and oiling in my future. The cabinet needs some work as well. 

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Good catch! I'm sure this one will clean up very nicely.
Over in the "spotted in the wild ..."- thread another user (AlmostVintage) just posted a link today where someone in Seattle is trying to sell this kind of machine for 500$ because according to him this model is extremely rare. After spotting two of them within a day I would say not so rare after all, isn't it?


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Good catch! I'm sure this one will clean up very nicely. Over in the "spotted in the wild ..."- thread another user (AlmostVintage) just posted a link today where someone in Seattle is trying to sell this kind of machine for 500$ because according to him this model is extremely rare. After spotting two of them within a day I would say not so rare after all, isn't it?


That one is apparently the bronze model that I would certainly prefer to have, this one is just the plain old cast iron version. 

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Ah okay. Thanks for clarifying that. Always learn something new.
But nonethewise, you were lucky. That's a really nice looking machine. Never get such nice looking machines around here for free.

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I do like the look of the White machine! Let us know how it sews - I see them on CL now and then (but never free!).
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I cleaned it up a bunch and oiled it. Spins nicely now and looks respectable. There was a pretty nasty nest of thread in the bobbin area. 

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That White design is really nice, a throwback of sorts - it looks older (to me, anyway) than it is. I have a vague memory of this machine (possibly only the bronze version) available in a really beautiful desk-cabinet. Maybe it was called Mt. Vernon? 

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Lucky you for free!  I really like the look of those embossed Whites.  
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I do like the look of the White machine! Let us know how it sews - I see them on CL now and then (but never free!).


Thanks for all the nice comments. 

Here is a quick video of the machine and how it sews. 

At the beginning of the video I show how the left leaf is not attached to the cabinet. Anyone know where to obtain the correct hinges?

Sorry for the poor video. I just wanted to see how it worked to post a video and I have not yet honed my skills. 

That's my oldest kid helping me in the video.

Also, I promise to clean up a little before I post my next video. [smile]


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Helen Ann,
I have a Webster that is identical to yours. It was my first sewing machine. I've never seen another one like it!

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It does look just like mine. I really like it and I can't remember where I got it.
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