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The early Florence (curved needle) machines are one of my favorite oldies because of their style and engineering and how great they sew. I have been collecting details and information about these machines over the past few years in order to research and gather insight into the details thru their limited production years.  

I now have 3 machines but only 1 working shuttle, so I feel very fortunate to have recently purchased a shuttle from a kind and generous collector. I was surprised to find that this new shuttle is identical to the others except for being 0.75mm longer. This very small difference is just enough to not allow it to work in any of my machines. I intend on taking the spring and internal pieces out and put the into another incomplete Florence shuttle, but in the meantime I am wondering if there was a larger or industrial version of the Florence machine.

If anyone has any details to help me solve my mystery I would really appreciate it!

Here are some photos of the machine and shuttles (w/measurements).

Suzanne

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Steve, I was hoping if you had time to take a look and tell me if you know about any 'industrial' Florence machines that could have taken this longer shuttle. I found a photo of an odd Florence machine that Wolfegang's had listed a while back with a very different presser foot bar from any other I had seen. I am wondering if that might be an 'indy' version. Here is the machine photo showing the unique presser foot arm.

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Ok, there were a few varieties of the Florence curved needle machines.  I will get my research together and reply later this afternoon in more detail.
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Awesome!! Thanks in advance!

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Hey Steve! I was curious if you discovered anything about this odd Florence shuttle. I was hoping someone might need it in a trade for a standard one before I pull the innards out to put in the one that fits the machines.

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I just sent a reminder email to ask again.
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got the reply!

"Hey… the answer is simply age… the shuttles varied in size over the life span of the machine model. This is not only seen with Florence, but with
Howe, Singer 12’s, and the earlier Davis machines. Florence did make machines for industrial use… but it did not affect the shuttle size, rather Florence just added gears to the underside of the machine, to accommodate for the heavier work. I’ve owned 1 industrial Florence, it now belongs to Lee King in Australia. Other makers like Howe & Singer… did increase the size of their shuttles with industrial machines.
 
Feel free to share this…
 
Mike"

Well, there ya go...

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Steve,

Thanks so much for checking into this and passing along the info. I am very curious about the age of the machine it would fit as mine range from 1865 to 1872. Sew . . . very interesting! I guess I am off to do an 'innards transplant' [smile], wish me luck!

Suzanne

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I wonder if the shuttle carrier could have been swapped out on older machines if the size of shuttle currently available changed.  


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Macy,

That is a good question. I can't imagine that the shuttle path would be/could be changed based on the way it is built. So maybe this one was for one of the latest machines or an industrial type version (that I have never seen). My 3 machines date 1865, 1868 (approx), and 1872 and it does not fit any of those. Sew very curious!

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